If a tree falls and nobody hears it, does it make a noise?

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anonymous · Answer

I asked wiki but it started talking about buddhist zen stuff.

anonymous · Answer

Please do not include buddhist zen  stuff in ur answer

anonymous · Answer

i think yes

anonymous · Answer

it must

anonymous · Answer

the argument against it is that sound is only sound when it vibrates against those little hairs in ur ears, right? or something...

anonymous · Answer

people must be deaf :D

anonymous · Answer

yes, it sounds like a pine koan

anonymous · Answer

sorry.

anonymous · Answer

then again, there aren't exactely forests for trees to fall in these days...

anonymous · Answer

it makes a sound

anonymous · Answer

poor little forrests TT ^TT

anonymous · Answer

I'm not insulted because Idk what a pine koan is :)

anonymous · Answer

do you know what a koan is?

anonymous · Answer

anonymous · Answer

"If a tree falls and nobody hears it, does it make a noise?" is a koan

anonymous · Answer

random philisophical riddle?

anonymous · Answer

I did get the "pine cone" thing... :)

anonymous · Answer

buddhist specifically,. not necessarily riddles though.

anonymous · Answer

The sound of one hand clapping...

anonymous · Answer

lol!
But I said no buddhist zen stuff in ur answer...

anonymous · Answer

Everybody was talking about koans...

anonymous · Answer

Does "no-one" include wildlife?

anonymous · Answer

yeah... no squirrels to witness the cataclysmic event...

anonymous · Answer

OK, my 2 cents...

Seems to me that the only difference between the 2 scenarios is presence or not of persons, nothing else has changed.

Therefore what was "heard" when people were present is still there whether or not people are present. How people hear something is irrelevant to the existence question.