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there are 8 horses in a race I must pick the finish top 4 in any order how many permutations are there? \
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8 * 7 * 6 * 5 = 1680 If order is not important, it's combinations, which is the above, divided by 4!, or 70.
thank you so much I've been out of school for many years and have forgotten alot
No problem. You can google permutation and combination calculator, for detailed answers and methods. The formula for nPr is n!/(n-r)!, and for nCr is n!/r!*(n-r)!
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