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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Problems with Set Theory --Subset-- If every element of a set B is also a member of a set A, then we say B is a subset of A. We use the symbol ⊂ to mean “is a subset of” and the symbol ⊄ to mean “is not a subset of”. But there is a question in my textbook-----let A= {1,2, {3,4},5}. then which of the following statement are incorrect. (i) {3,4} ⊂ A ???????

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes {{3,4}} ⊂ A set A has a subset that has two elements 3 and 4.

OpenStudy (valpey):

It is a little weird, but 3 is not an element of A (nor is 4), but the set {3,4} is an element of A.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

visualize it as hierarchy of elements. A has a subset. that subset has elements "3, 4"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh, so if there are two braces it means that it is as a whole, the element of A?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yup.. that WHOLE is an element of A

OpenStudy (valpey):

A has four elements. Three of them are the numbers 1,2,and 5. The fourth element of A is the set {3,4}. If we say B = {3,4}, then we can say B is an element of A or B is a subset of A or {{3,4}} is a subset of A or {2,{3,4}} is a subset of A.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

A has 4 elements a 1 a 2 a set containg the numbers 3 and 4 and a 5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Valpey but in my textbook it is given that {3,4} ⊂ A is incorrect.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

your book is correct

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[3\in\{3,4\}\] but \[3\notin A\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why please clarify...

OpenStudy (zarkon):

thus they can't be subsets

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I listed above the 4 elements of A. is any of them just a 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay and there is an another question 1 ⊂ A is incorrect?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Zarkon help me out

OpenStudy (valpey):

{{3,4}} is a subset of A but {3,4} is not a subset of A.

OpenStudy (valpey):

Similarly, 1 is not a subset of A but {1} is a subset of A. 1 is an element of A.

OpenStudy (valpey):

I was wrong to say B was a subset of A. B is just an element of A.

OpenStudy (valpey):

{B} is a subset of A. (where I define B = {3,4} as before)

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