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OpenStudy (dls):

Derivative help!

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\large If ~ y=\log[x+\sqrt{x^2+a^2}],show~that~(x^2+a^2) \times \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+x \frac{dy}{dx}=0\]

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\large \frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{1}{x+\sqrt{x^2+a^2}} \times 1 + \frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x^2+a^2}} \times 2x\]

OpenStudy (dls):

am i correct till here? :|

OpenStudy (dls):

@shubhamsrg

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

yesh! \m/

OpenStudy (dls):

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OpenStudy (dls):

do I need further simplification? to continue?

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

you need to find d2y/dx^2 also

OpenStudy (dls):

I know,but asking do I need to simplify this more so that 2nd derivative finding becomes easier?

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

why don't you, convert the eqn in another form first ? bring "e" into play :)

OpenStudy (dls):

log?

OpenStudy (dls):

e?

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

=> e^y = x+ sqrt(x^2 + a^2)

OpenStudy (dls):

dahell :O aisa bhi kuch hota hai? [[ohcrap.meme]]

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

this is basically by the definition of log -_- kya log padhe ho? :|

OpenStudy (dls):

ghanta padaya tumne :/

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

hmm, sorry :/

OpenStudy (dls):

achaar daalu sorry ka?

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

okay :)

OpenStudy (dls):

kya karun ab?

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

aachar dalo :) fir taste karwana..

OpenStudy (dls):

neither you have time nor me so :P bi tch please.

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

where are the mods? this guy just abused me! :O

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

e^y = x+ sqrt(x^2 + a^2) use this to find dy/dx and d2y/dx^2

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\large \frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{1}{e^y} \times 1 + \frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x^2+a^2}} \times 2x\]

OpenStudy (dls):

??

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

e^y LHS me hi rakho waise to sahi hai :')

OpenStudy (dls):

idk what u r saying :P

OpenStudy (dls):

anyway

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\LARGE \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=e^y+2x \times 2 \times 2 \times \sqrt{x^2+a^2} ~~ 2x\]

OpenStudy (dls):

??

OpenStudy (dls):

@shubhamsrg

OpenStudy (aravindg):

well I think both methods are easy... I can do it in both ways which way you need @DLS ?

OpenStudy (dls):

without e^y

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ok :)

OpenStudy (dls):

did i get the second derivative right?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

your dy/dx is right ..well I dont see where you found second derivative for first method ?

OpenStudy (dls):

well :/ okay you find,ill see

OpenStudy (aravindg):

can you read it ?

OpenStudy (dls):

can we further simplify our original dy/dx more? http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+derivative+of+y%3D+log%28x%2B+sqrt%7Bx%5E2%2Ba%5E2%7D%29 like here

OpenStudy (aravindg):

wait I will start again ok ?

OpenStudy (dls):

okay:/

OpenStudy (aravindg):

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