Question

Okay, so I have recently encountered issues regarding users posting Test questions. As I was stating that test questions are against the site's terms, other users argued; "Then what is this site for? How do you know a user is posting test questions if they don't tell you?" Are there any ideas/suggestions to help distinguish a difference between Test questions and normal study questions?

Answer 1

@Compassionate @Abhisar

Answer 2

@thomaster

Answer 3

bunny it is actually obvious when it is a assignment or not. When it sounds like an assignment just say that its against the os rules.

Answer 4

Many users don't want to type all the time so they just want answers

Answer 5

Yes, I know that part.
Normal assignments are permitted, I do believe.
But the comparison between those questions and the questions on Quizzes, Tests, and Exams are very similar.

Answer 6

I agree with u

Answer 7

You can't distinguish between quizzes and assignments. That's why the CoC doesn't even really make sense.

Answer 8

Yes i researched a lot on it... have irritated thom a lot for this :D !

It's actually very easy to differentiate between cheater (i am considering both actual cheater and the one who just wants answer as cheaters) and learner. The moto of this site is to teach and help students in their goal of learning and not just giving out straight answers. Openstudy do not provides naive answering machines !

\(\large\sf Signs~of~Cheater\)
\(\bullet\) Posts like HELP ASAP
\(\bullet\) Never interacts or answers your question
\(\bullet\) If interacts, provides replies like "IDK, Just temme the answer !,"
\(\bullet\) Prefers to medal the one who gives him/her direct answers rather than the one who explains the process and leaves on him to find out the answer.

Answer 9

YOu can judge by his/her attitude easily. It is suggested to leave such students unanswered and try helping those who really wants to learn.

Answer 10

Yeah, but some of those signs might include assignments, besides the ones that directly tell people to give them answers.

Answer 11

Even doing assignments for someone else is almost cheating !

Answer 12

Exactly...

Answer 13

Well, you don't have to do the assignment "for" them.
Guide the user so that they find the answers themselves. That is what I try to do.

Answer 14

People don't like it, but I WILL call you out if you are giving direct answers... Even if you are explaining your answer.

If the user is not learning, there is no point.

Answer 15

Exactly !
So if someone posts a whole assignment or a MCQ, this is generally my response

"Which do you think it is? Why or why not? It would be easier to tutor you if you explained what about the question is giving you trouble."

Answer 16

Yes, I ask them "Which one do you believe is correct and why?" a lot.

Answer 17

Great job bunny :D

Answer 18

The line in the COC "Don'y provide someone with just the answer" can be miss interpreted !
Many think that if u provide an answer with its explanation then it's okay. But no it's wrong !

Answer 19

^ Agreed.

Answer 20

Someone tell me the difference between an assignment and an exam?

Answer 21

That is also direct answering. Actually u need to explain things without exactly telling them the the answer !

Answer 22

Leave him/her to the point where he/she can figure out the answer him/his self.

Answer 23

EXAM = Live test or ongoing test
Assignment= Like homework

Answer 24

What if people that have exam questions just copy and paste the question of the exam into question on the post. How will you know if it's an exam or a question?

Answer 25

I agree, be a teacher not a cheater.
I like to think of it as the user's goal is a black belt. The more you guide them, the higher knowledge they'll grow to have.
They make the connections for themselves. If someone is answering their question for them, they are less likely to know and memorize why it is the correct answer. And it takes the whole learning process away, so they are at the same level as they started on, never reaching any higher levels of success. Don't take that success from them, rather, allow them to grow, allow them to learn, to be something more. Who cares if you have the black belt and know the answer. Use that knowledge to teach them, to help them grow.

Question, though... Would it be inappropriate to inquire where their question is from?

Answer 26

:o Impressive

Answer 27

idts

Answer 28

Am I the only one that finds wayyyy too much cheating on this site and people giving out answers?? And if I say something I'm attacked by 20 new users telling me to piss off...

Answer 29

No, you are not the only one... That is why I made this post. @LearningIsAwesome

Answer 30

I feel like I intrude because I warn people of this often. Sometimes I tag moderators and something gets done, other times I do and nothing happens. What's the best course of action?

Answer 31

I run into that problem all the time... Other users actually link me to posts because they are too afraid to tell the users themselves.

The best course of action, if they are not listening to you is to report them.

Answer 32

Okay. I also find it funny that most of these users with attitudes just joined the site and act like they own it haha

Answer 33

That same thing happens to me @LearningIsAwesome

You tell someone the rules of the CoC and then they start acting up.

Answer 34

Yeah. Really, though. People need to realize what the site is intended for. There are too many users using this site to cheat. I am about done with it right now.
I did not join to help people cheat, I joined to help students grow and achieve success.

Answer 35

Exactly, let's try to put an end to it though rather than giving up, we could tag each other when we identify cheating? Like a group thing

Answer 36

Sounds like a plan!

Answer 37

lol XD

Answer 38

Just saying, it's an idea. Strength in numbers!

Answer 39

So @Whitemonsterbunny17 you're in? Anyone else?

Answer 40

Yeah. Kick out the cheaters, and leave the people who really want to study.

Answer 41

im in i guess

Answer 42

@Conqueror , @Elsa213 , you guys in? lol

Answer 43

Hm

Answer 44

Sure

Answer 45

Right on, the OS foursome? xD lol

Answer 46

XD

Answer 47

LOL XD
I think we'll need more people... We'll need an army. XD

Answer 48

Okay that was really stupid, I apologize for the amount of retard coming out of me today

Answer 49

Lol I think I can get sum

Answer 50

But really if you see clear cheating just tag each other on it. We could actually put an end to it

Answer 51

Seriously... In the time we've been talking about this, I have encountered 3 posts with people giving direct answers. >.<

Answer 52

Exactly, it sucks... can we at least have a corny catch phrase? Like... AUTOBOTS, ROLL OUT!

Answer 53

@Somy can u help us?

Answer 54

@tanya123 @AngelWilliams16 Do u agree?

Answer 55

This is really something the mods should take care of, because they don't make the code of conduct recognizable to the people that join openstudy. They should make it pop up in front of their screens as soon as they join open study.

One thing we can do though is that when we see users with really low ranks we know they just joined, so you can message the terms and services and the code of conduct of open study so that they'll know how to follow the rules properly on open study.

And if they don't, we should notify them to the mods so they can take drastic action.

Answer 56

bunny should we get moderators to help us?

Answer 57

@phi @ganeshie8 you guys are mods, is this a good idea?

Answer 58

It does pop onto the screen before they enter the site... They have to agree to them before they join. They just don't read them. @Conqueror

Answer 59

Yeah, but they just click the checks like they've done that before on other websites.

Answer 60

^ That's the problem.

Answer 61

- multiple choice
- time - usually u can sense that they are in hurry
- constant closing and opening questions
@Whitemonsterbunny17 @Elsa213

Answer 62

what we can do is this
- extend explanation (meaning make it long and detailed - or just post a link to topic related to this question)

you will see their reaction
'what is the answer?' or is it 'a? b? c? d?' Its pretty clear that they are guessing
also it clearly shows that they have not much time

- ask why do they think which choice

- if you see that all they want is direct answer - just leave that question

Cruel
But they should learn. Its about their Future. Its not just some game.

Answer 63

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Answer 64

@Somy but I hate it when I'm typing out an explanation and I get interrupted by someone who just says "D" and the asker says THANKS and takes off!

Answer 65

OMG I am taggin you in a question. This is really bugging me. @LearningIsAwesome

Answer 66

I know
Thus
guys you should understand that WE are the Source of their Cheating
If we don't lead them to it - they can't do it on their own

THUS reporting the asker - has no meaning
person who is giving direct answers - this should be the focus
1- warn them
2- warn them
3- warn them
4- Report.

Answer 67

Most of the time i give them the wrong answers. So when they fail they can probably learn a lesson

Answer 68

this is my rule lol
you can report after first warning if you don't have as much patience

Answer 69

Yeah well thats why i always tell to cross check :3
ppl who actually care/study would surely cross check

Answer 70

@Elsa213 that's morally wrong !

Answer 71

:o how?

Answer 72

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Answer 73

You should not give them wrong answers. Warn them, if they don't understand just leave them.

Answer 74

O >_>

Answer 75

:(

Answer 76

:o

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Answer 78

I reported cheating and got issued a warning, what?!

Answer 79

lol thats chubby sad emoticon

Answer 80

Y would u get warning for reporting cheating !

Answer 81

When you came I got issued a warning for "arguing"

Answer 82

@LearningIsAwesome i think its because of the fight

Answer 83

I think the guys who were cheating reported me also.

Answer 84

nah thats not gonna work
mod was there

Answer 85

she saw the 'argue'

Answer 86

How was I in the wrong though? I don't understand what am I supposed to do let it happen?

Answer 87

Dont argue, even don't give wrong answers. Just warn them about COC, if they don't understand report them and move on.

Answer 88

And just let them continue? @Abhisar No way...

Answer 89

@LearningIsAwesome starting to argue will just cause more problems

Answer 90

We all reported them and it did nothing!

Answer 91

MOD's are there for next step :)

Answer 92

not let
just warn
if they don't listen - ignore and report them

Answer 93

I tagged mods and reported, it did nothing. nothing.

Answer 94

@LearningIsAwesome a mod did come right?

Answer 95

Sometimes it can happen. There are limited number of MODS. So it is not always possible for them to come and see.