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OpenStudy (somy):

Pedigree & genetics pedigree I need someone who's good at it & can tutor me more or less. I do have the basics of it but dont remember as much, & genetics one, not too familiar with it. I have a worksheet to practice on. Anyone?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

sure..i can..:)

OpenStudy (somy):

oh thanks!

OpenStudy (somy):

as starting i wish to recall my memory, so i'll be doing few basics http://prntscr.com/6fshir

OpenStudy (somy):

in first one, I just say which by I or II or III representing generation and then number?

OpenStudy (somy):

I - 1 II - 2, 3, 7 III - 3

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

yeah I II III represent generations and 1 2 3 represent members of that generation. No it I- 1 II- 1,2 and so on

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

yeah u r right..:P

OpenStudy (somy):

alright so in second one i dont really get this one can u decide if the trait is dominant just by looking at this pedigree?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

yes...see they have given that either u hv the disease or u dont..u cant be a carrier. To be a carrier..the trait needs to be recessive and genotype heterozygous

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

to find out whther the trait is ddominant or recessive from a pedigree..u try using both..once dominant and once recessive and then assign the genotype..the one that fits the correct is correct..:)

OpenStudy (somy):

so its this statement ' to be a carrier, the trait has to be recessive and genotype has to be heterozygous' is it always true or is it true just exclusively for this current case?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

yep...see for eg...a disease is due to dominant allele then HH is diseased and Hh is diseased while hh is not for recessive causing the disease. HH will be normal Hh will be normal but carrier hh will be diseased

OpenStudy (somy):

so if disease only occurs by being dominant HH = disease Hh = carrier hh = disease free if only occurs by being recessive HH = disease free Hh = carrier hh = disease did i get your point?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

no no..see when we say carrier..it means that u dont show the disease symptoms but u hv one allele coding for the disease. Generally if the disease is resessive and the genotype is Hh. Then the normal dominant allele wud be expressed and the diseases resessive would not. so u do not show the symptoms but still hv the allele

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

but if the disease is dominant and genotype is Hh the dominant diseased allele would be expressed against the resessive. so that person shows the diseased symptoms..

OpenStudy (somy):

hmmm Hh recessive, dominant trait shown = disease free (by this i mean no symptoms) but carrier Hh dominant, dominant trait expressed = diseased?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

yep..perfect..:)

OpenStudy (somy):

oh i see! but in our case the disease is caused only if its fully recessive right?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

in our case..they say..either u hv the disease or dont...no carrier

OpenStudy (somy):

|dw:1426160261859:dw| since the q says, there are no carriers, then mother is not a carrier but it is heterozygous since i counted they have 6 children of which 3 are diseased

OpenStudy (somy):

so heterozygous would not be a carrier? but only recessive will be diseased

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

in our case HH nd Hh will give hutington's disease while hh will give normal

OpenStudy (somy):

oh wow

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

see wait...

OpenStudy (somy):

i thought hh would give

OpenStudy (somy):

and HH & Hh would not since there are no carriers so no heterozygous

OpenStudy (somy):

or did i get it wrong? #_#

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

see..lets start from the beginning... dont consider a disease for now..okay we have 2 alleles..H and h. H gives blue color and h gives white

OpenStudy (somy):

okay

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

so if we have HH then we get blue color Hh blue color and hh white color...perfect?

OpenStudy (somy):

Hh carrier but blue? is that how it is?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

H is the dominant allele....when it is present with h..only H is expressed. thats y it is called dominant

OpenStudy (somy):

ah i see

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

Lets clear this once again Hh is heterozygous.. So i n this the dominant allele H always masks rhe expression of h. H doesnt allow h to express

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

with me?

OpenStudy (somy):

okay

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

so when u have Hh u dont have both white and blue colour...u have only blue

OpenStudy (somy):

yes i got it my confusion regarding carrier is still there though i get it that dominant H is expressed over recessive h and thus the color of the offspring is blue, but, would this offspring still be considered lets say as carrier of white color in its genotype, yes or no? just yes or no would clear out my confusion

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

Now we consider a faulty H. this faulty H is causing hutingtons So when u have genotype HH u only hv faulty allele...so u hv disease When we have Hh. u have both alleles. but the faulty is dominant. so it doesnt allow the expression of h. so u hv the disease and when hh..no faulty allele no disease

OpenStudy (somy):

oh! i seee!!!

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

now u consider a faulty h. this is not in our case but just eg. HH..no faulty allele...normal Hh have faulty allele. but H doesnt allow faulty h to express. so no disease. But u still hv the faulty h. so carrier. hh..both faulty alleles. so disease.

OpenStudy (somy):

so then if disease is on H HH = disease Hh = disease hh = disease free if disease is on h HH = disease free Hh = disease free since H is dominant thus is expressed, but still is a carrier of h hh = diseased

OpenStudy (somy):

did i get you now?

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

Carrier is mostly used in case of a disease..now white color for eg is not a disease..just another phenotype... generally when u talk about a disease then u say carrier

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

PERFECT!!:)

OpenStudy (somy):

yey! good i got it! so i consider issue of carrier in case if the faulty allele is recessive!

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

@Somy I need to go now... yes..what u said is correct..and the genotype is heterozygous

OpenStudy (somy):

ah okay, thanks for explaining so far! been a big help!

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

:* ill be back for the rest..:)

OpenStudy (somy):

thnks!! :*

syed98 (syedmohammed98):

um can we say that if two normal parents produce an offspring which is affected....then the whole pedigree is considered to be recessive ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, that could just be a mutation in the child.

OpenStudy (shrutipande9):

yeah that could be a somatic mutation...:) @somy ..tag me when u need help for the next ques..:)

OpenStudy (somy):

will do! @shrutipande9 i have actually quite few of them so i can only ask you if you are free enough lol

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