Question

"I really think God does not exist" OLD
I have drawn a wonderful conclusion through this convo
Thanks a lot everyone

Answer 1

3 possible things might have happened to him/her :

1) He/She is too weak to combat the evil forces and is hence powerless against the growing imbalance in the world
2) He/She prefers bad people or people that are rich and can donate more to him. In short, God = evil
3) He/She does not exist

Answer 2

Please don't bring in specific religious comments.
I'm also not wanting to offend someone

Answer 3

I might be wrong ( I personally think I am definitely wrong )

Answer 4

o.O Well my opinion to you for this is everyone has their own beliefs what you beleive others may not so if you feel like u dont beleive in god but u used to then god is always with u :*

Answer 5

he is not
That is the thing to worry. I'm one of the good people ( if compared to my peers ). Still, the bad people always enjoy and are favored. They are more popular, more trendy, more "cool"

Answer 6

that's not right

Answer 7

Well just know god will always be there this is a temporary reaction

Answer 8

>:( <--angry nnesha

Answer 9

first sentence "i really think GOD does not exist"

Answer 10

okay i just read other comments :P

Answer 11

what to do ? God is not doing anything right. Everything is just getting worse ( both on my level and globally also )

Answer 12

what's the purpose of your life ??
why are we here in this world ??

Answer 13

Well everyone has their own views of life,.................

Answer 14

let me finish my icecream

Answer 15

nd btw its yummmmy

Answer 16

lol

Answer 17

^_^ okay let's wait for nni

Answer 18

okay done
so yeah GOD is testing your patience
we are here for purpose
same like you have to take class before the exam
he can see everything ,he can control it
but again there is a reason

Answer 19

i'll be back

Answer 20

ello r u there ?

Answer 21

yes

Answer 22

par kab tak nni ?? I am tired.

Answer 23

pagal ladkhi

Answer 24

It even annoys me further that I don't know the reason and that I can't do anything

Answer 25

haan pagla gaye hain hum pooja

Answer 26

okay maimi koi baat nahi easa hota
not only u!
well zandiagi main asy hota
hai liken agar main apna experience bateo
mujhe sakoon sirf apni kitaab parh kar hota
tbh main jab bhi parshan hoti hoon mujhe kisi na kisi tarha koi acha qoute jo related ho satuation say parh lea karo

tm apni mazhabi kitabay parhoo :)

Answer 27

theke :)
kuck sochti hun

Answer 28

*kuch

Answer 29

yep okay quick question
agar tm kasi ko pasand karo as a sis, friend suchy dil say tmhain os par yakeen ho kia tm os kay lay muskil bardshaat kar lo gae ??

Answer 30

haan
koi shak nahi hai. bilkul kar lungi

Answer 31

^ agar tmhain GOd par yakeen hai to tm os kay lay bhi bardashat kar lo ge :-)

Answer 32

:) karna hi padega

Answer 33

hahah marzi hai app ki :P :-)

Answer 34

meri ? Mera kuch hai hi nahi.

Answer 35

toh phir kaisi marzi...... par koi nahi I will pass the test, I hope

Answer 36

just behappy :-)
"GOD tests those whom he loves most!"
"GOD gives hardest battles to his strongest soldiers "

Answer 37

yes YES!! you will!! :-)

Answer 38

:)
:D

Answer 39

thank u
shukriya

Answer 40

hahha koi baat nahi :-)

Answer 41

:)

Answer 42

What is your evidence or rationality that there is no God?

Answer 43

haha
what evidence do you have that god does exist ? :)

Answer 44

I have plenty

Answer 45

@MaimiGirl
Why does God have to be nonexistent, evil, or not all-powerful?

Answer 46

@maimiGirl "what evidence do you have that god does exist ? :)" - The Quran.

Answer 47

@alphadxg , haha, i didn't know that the Quran had a simley face in it.

Answer 48

nope she copied maimi sentences with simely face

Answer 49

smiley*

Answer 50

My reply question is "why do you believe in anything?" is it because you consider yourself a rational human being and believe what you've been taught and experienced. There's rational human being out there who experienced certain things and decide to kill and plunder for there survival, try to convince them what you believe let alone a God that you don't. In our world today there are many different ways of life and death as it always has been then question to ask is what you believe going to change that or at least some hope of change. I don't pretend to truly understand my Lords but what I do understand is what they taught me.

Answer 51

@TheRaggedyDoctor
because nothing is in his control. Everything is going toward worse and nothing is improving. for example, global warming and all. Also, why are so many ppl abused and murdered everyday ????? Because God is not powerful enough to set things right

Answer 52

@alphadxg
Quran is not written by god. It is written by ppl. It could be a story. It could be fake just like the fairytales we read

Answer 53

@KenLJW
What if everything u were taught is wrong??? Some one has to question the rules to make new ones !!

Answer 54

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @MaimiGirl
@alphadxg
Quran is not written by god. It is written by ppl. It could be a story. It could be fake just like the fairytales we read
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)
Allah caused the Quran to descend from the Protected Tablet (al-Lawh al-Mahfuth) on which it was written to the lowest heaven. In this revelation all of the Quran was sent down at one time to a station in the lowest heaven referred to as "Bayt al-'Izzah" (The House of Honor or Power). The blessed night on which this descent took place is called "Laylatul-Qadr" (The Night of Decree), one of the odd-numbered nights in the last ten days of the month of Ramadan. Allah referred to this initial revelation as follows:

"Haa Meem. By the Clear Book, verily, I revealed it in a blessed night." [Noble Quran 44:1-3]

"Verily, I revealed it on the Night of Decree." [Noble Quran 97:1]

"The month of Ramadan in which I revealed the Quran as guidance to mankind ..." [Noble Quran 2:185]
http://www.allahsquran.com/quran_divine_book.php
it's not written by people
not even one word

Answer 55

nni

Who writes ur school's science books ? Not Einstein, not scientists, and definitely not even some person who has been mentioned in the book.
Same is with religious books. Just because God is mentioned or his point of view is said, it does not mean that God himself wrote the book.

It is like me writing a book saying Einstein himself wrote it

Answer 56

In fact, why only Quran ????? The same with Bible.

Answer 57

@MaimiGirl
I feel like most Atheists could even answer this for you, tbh. I'd suggest you do a bit of research on God, because even taking a few minutes to look up such a question would probably clear things up completely. You seem to be aiming this post towards the God of the Bible, so I'll try to explain a bit before I have to leave, lol.
I'm assuming you've heard the creation story, and the fall of man. The idea isn't that they brought sin into the world, but that along with sin came all things evil. That includes things you mentioned. Global warming, abuse, murder. It's not that God isn't powerful enough to stop evil, it's that WE are evil. Our world is now evil, because of us. To stop evil would mean to get rid of us, too, and that's not what God wants to do. Soooo, that's about it. lol

Answer 58

When I was a child I didn't question if 1 + 1 = 2 or 1/2 = .5, I didn't question that chair met more than dinning room chair or living room chair, I didn't question why my father wanted me to ask permission to leave the dinner table, for that matter the language I used. Christ said come as little children which is exactly how on should approach scriptures. You say what if everything were taught is wrong, possibly it was I don't know what your were taught, I wasn't taught much I the religious sense, but I can tell you the school of hard knocks is one I would have chosen. If you question what you've been taught then at least check the source of those who taught you and make your own decision. I have a different view of God then most, it is one of coming to be, in an individuals life or time itself.

Answer 59

These are my beliefs . I'm not trying to offend anyone . I simply want to let people know my thoughts on this topic .

1 God gives free will meaning it is our choice to do evil or good . He is allowing us to choose .

2 Why would God want materialistic things ? I believe there has to be good to be wrong , so something must exist , right ?

Answer 60

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @MaimiGirl
nni

Who writes ur school's science books ? Not Einstein, not scientists, and definitely not even some person who has been mentioned in the book.
Same is with religious books. Just because God is mentioned or his point of view is said, it does not mean that God himself wrote the book.

It is like me writing a book saying Einstein himself wrote it
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)
Ok good thinking, however how can we test the book? There must be a set criteria to determine if something is from god or not right?

Answer 61

@TheRaggedyDoctor
I appreciate u responding to my question and so far u are the first one to convince me to believe that if god exists, he/she is not weak. My post is not toward to any religion. It is about the ultimate power whom we perceive as different gods.
@KenLJW
I appreciate u sharing ur thoughts with us. I appreciate it that ppl like me are also posting on here.

Answer 62

@iSmuggleHuggles
Thanks for sharing. Appreciated

Answer 63

@alphadxg
seems like you did not get what i was saying.
We need more talking
what i was saying was that the scriptures might be wrong or right. and yes we have to testt them, that is why i have asked the question.

Answer 64

Although I can prove many things for my belief (which is in the Bible), I cannot at the moment prove that there is a God; but what I do know is that if you truly seek God, he will show himself to you someway. At least that is how I got to know that there is a God. I searched a long time to "hear" God. What I found was that although God sometimes may be subtle, God is always present. Honestly, I believe the only way to know if there is a God, is to genuinely seek God though much patience and open eyes.
Hope that helps :)

Answer 65

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @autogenius
God, he will show himself to you someway
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

This is a subjective claim and a opinionated one.

Answer 66

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @MaimiGirl
@alphadxg
seems like you did not get what i was saying.
We need more talking
what i was saying was that the scriptures might be wrong or right. and yes we have to testt them, that is why i have asked the question.
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)
Sorry, what was your question?

Answer 67

I acknowledge that my claim is subjective. However, I am stating what my experience was regarding finding out that there is a God. Also, I cannot believe that the universe was made from nothing. I believe that there has to be a Creator who created the universe and put all things in existence. Again, this is a opinionated claim; but I am just here to share my experiences.

Thank you for the opportunity for a rebuttal, @alphadxg.

Answer 68

@autogenius Sorry, I just want this discussion to be primarily on tangible evidence if we may :)

Answer 69

I understand, @alphadxg, that many people want tangible evidence for the existence of God; but I cannot give it. I truly believe that the creation (nature and the universe) shows that there has to be a Creator. That is really my only tangible proof of a God that I can think of. But again, I believe that finding out if there is a God is dependent on patience and open eyes. At least that is how I got to know that there is a God.

Answer 70

@autogenius I should clarify, not tangible evidence for a God, but we need to place our conclusions based on evidence (this is what I was referring to, as tangible evidence). So the bible, Quran, scriptures etc, instead of "experiences" and subjective reasoning, those which we can not examine and deal with.

Answer 71

@autogenius
u had the most positive post so far and i respect ur opinion

Answer 72

I am kind of inclining toward to u guys :) But I still fail to understand as of why we have believed that god exists and not demons ? Meaning : how have we never questioned his existence ??

Answer 73

@alphadxg
my ques is the one above

Answer 74

that how come we all have blindly followed what we have been thought and not question it but just because " God " is "right"

Answer 75

@MaimiGirl Is Islam, we do believe in "Demons", we refer to them as Jinn, they are another creation that God created, they are like humans and angels (Race wise), there is good and bad among them also.

Answer 76

same in my religion
there are demon : rakshas that have been fighting gods for ages

Answer 77

and there we go, just because our religious book says demons exist, we have continued to believe that they exist.
That is I guess the consequences of blind faith. And i understand why ppl are taught to believe in a good power. It is what tells us to be a good human being. All our religions teach us our duties, life principles.

Answer 78

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @MaimiGirl
and there we go, just because our religious book says demons exist, we have continued to believe that they exist.
That is I guess the consequences of blind faith. And i understand why ppl are taught to believe in a good power. It is what tells us to be a good human being. All our religions teach us our duties, life principles.
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

You asked me about demons, and I replied with, "In Islam....."
\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @alphadxg
@MaimiGirl Is Islam, we do believe in "Demons", we refer to them as Jinn, they are another creation that God created, they are like humans and angels (Race wise), there is good and bad among them also.
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Answer 79

@MaimiGirl Have you read the Quran?

Answer 80

I therefore conclude ;

that although there are ppl like me who like to question everything, there should not be too many of me. Some things that are believed in make us strong and help the society be a better place.
I feel that as long as even 1% of the ppl are happy and better because they believe in god, God is worth it :)
I surely did learn something and I feel that my connection with god and my understanding of God has reached a new level

Thanks to you all for a lovely conversation @Nnesha @kidrah69 @alphadxg @TheRaggedyDoctor @KenLJW @autogenius

Answer 81

I have not alpha

Answer 82

@MaimiGirl Then how do you have a predisposition to think these are fairy tales and such. A rational, reasonable person would read and study all of the religions, and then come to a conclusion. Agreed?

Answer 83

Agreed :)
I am not right or wrong and you are not wrong or right. It is just that we have different opinions and now I know why.
I am even more curious to read the scriptures, I will find the time to read them if possible to just..............................learn

Answer 84

Thank you @alphadxg and @MaimiGirl for your comments and the opportunities to reply. I too pondered on questions like these and I just want to tell you my experiences. Just to let you know, I became a Christian (non-denominational) and if you have any questions concerning Christianity, religion, or really anything; feel free to message me.
Again thank you all so much and I hope I was a help! :)

Answer 85

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @MaimiGirl
nni

Who writes ur school's science books ? Not Einstein, not scientists, and definitely not even some person who has been mentioned in the book.
Same is with religious books. Just because God is mentioned or his point of view is said, it does not mean that God himself wrote the book.

It is like me writing a book saying Einstein himself wrote it
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)
it's pretty obvious that in this century 2015 GOD isn't writing or sending books by himself like other scientists
and yea
every single word is from GOD
, revealed through Gibreal to da Muhammad(PBUH) for a muslim
there are different design or different way of translation but the meaning are the same
but i guess there is new testament of bible somebody told me

Answer 86

ahh net connection is very slow and post button is hiding ;-;

Answer 87

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @MaimiGirl
Agreed :)
I am not right or wrong and you are not wrong or right. It is just that we have different opinions and now I know why.
I am even more curious to read the scriptures, I will find the time to read them if possible to just..............................learn
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)
yeah right :-)

Answer 88

nice discussion i love it !!
thanks maimi

Answer 89

cheers for us !
thanks you all

Answer 90

If I quote Plato, Aristotle or any or ancient Greek, or any 17th, 18th philosopher no one complains about the source but some may consider it's truthfulness. But if I quote from the Bible there's so many complaints and they don't bother to consider the truthfulness of it. This is why 12 step programs replace sin with character defect and psychology really don't like the idea possession because they really can't deal with that realm. Some take the Hindu position of reincarnation rather than the possibility that a spirit may be occupying another's body, ether partially or fully. If our society really accepted these ideas convictions would be much more complex, and whether some, or any, really have free will. Corruption occurs at a very young age and one may not remember it but it has a life long effect until some sort of intervention, divine or otherwise.

Answer 91

Hmm.. I see familiar faces here. @Nnesha And @MaimiGirl

Answer 92

similar faces as in ?

Answer 93

You forgot me already ? Oh well.

Answer 94

Anyway, You said you think God doesnt exist, right ? You still think so ?