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OpenStudy (vera_ewing):

Suggestion: Debate Section

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Too much fighting and arguments could turn into a very nasty thing.

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

No will cause a lot of arguments and spam

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

But thats putting to much work on the mods.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

The moderators are already tired about the music section. The debate section is basically asking for trouble.

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

But there is never really going to be a winner.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

How would it sound to have the music section only on when someone is moderating them? At the most unexpected times?

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

That's biased.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Moderators can be biased when choosing a winner. After all they are earthlings.

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

But there is no winner.

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

Debates don't have winners.

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

There is no such thing as no bias.

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

Lets debate over having a debate group ;) lolol jk :P

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

And what happens when the debate goes too far? Will the mod just close the whole debate post because of one users actions?

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

:/ how would this benifit openstudy?

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

It is inevitable. Bias cannot be removed, it can only be reduced. Unbiased is non-existent.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @vera_ewing And we could get unbiased moderators. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) What type of magic have you seen?

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Other users would feel left out.

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

^

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

And how do you choose "responsible" users?

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

A debate is not fun when only some users are allowed to participate.

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

These debates can't have winners. Will just start more arguments. If I have a viewpoint A, and Chibi has viewpoint B. And I have my friends backing me up, and Chibi has his friends. Even if the moderator says that Chibi won [he always does tho] then it will start a conflict. My friends and his friends will fight and argue. And it will just get ugly.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @vera_ewing Responsible users are users who don't spam the debate post and break the CoC. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Thousands of users...

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Ok answer my question how will this benifit the OpenStudy and @vera_ewing would you go hunt down the thousands of users who follow the CoC?

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

And ambassadors are not going to get powers anytime soon either :P

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Friendships can get destroyed.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Chaos will happen.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Some viewpoints are not really supposed to be discussed.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Mods dont have time for pointless debates. That is just wasting their time and keeping them from moderating the rest of OS

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

Well then, what types of questions would be fit to go in this debate section? Admins do not want to make subjects that will have become inactive....

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @confluxepic Friendships can get destroyed. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Omg this got so dramatic lol.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

We have the english section.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @kidrah69 Chaos will happen. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So true.

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

The debates can turn out ugly with one party using foul language.

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

I mean we are having a debate right now.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

We do not need a section for this drama

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @vera_ewing If it's properly controlled, it will be fine and people will get to work on their debate skills. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Properly controlled? How so? Anything can go wrong.

OpenStudy (sleepyhead314):

feedback section is basically already a debate section tbh

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Yep

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

@vera_ewing why would mods want to babysit?

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @sleepyhead314 feedback section is basically already a debate section tbh \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

We debate over proper stuff like how well ideas and suggestions are.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

There doesn't have to be "scheduled" timings.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

No one is left out.

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

I like debating...

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

LOL much more like drama i bet Preetha would get 1000 pm's + what she already gets about taking their side in a debate

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

We also have Yammer LOL.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

XD thats another debate site :P

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

That's worse.

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

but then again, there are many users that will abuse it. Even the normal sections are abused.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

@vera_ewing how would the timings work out?

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Is bullying good or bad? And a troll will use multiple accounts...

OpenStudy (sleepyhead314):

vera, how is this section any different than the debate section that you envision? :)

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Debates=Arguments=Fights=Stuff

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

We barely have enough mods to keep up with the Music section and soo many people get away with breaking the CoC. Forget the music section, moderators aren't even able to keep up with reports. I reported something like a week ago, they totally skipped the report. It takes me a few days of continuously reporting something to get some serious violations noticed by a moderator... Debate would be another place for petty arguments and even some good conversations.

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

DEBATE!!!! Pancakes or Waffles??? User 1: Oh well I like waffles. :) User 2: Oh well I like Pancakes. :) *500 messages later* User 2: YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON, HOW COULD YOU HAVE SUCH AN AWFUL OPINION User 1: I NEVER WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN, CHADLEY. *User 2 dramatically logs out*

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @confluxepic The moderators are already tired about the music section. The debate section is basically asking for trouble. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @confluxepic \(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @confluxepic The moderators are already tired about the music section. The debate section is basically asking for trouble. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

OpenStudy (sleepyhead314):

debates normally have topics most of the time, they fit in the school categories that we already have ^_^

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @TheSmartOne Well then, what types of questions would be fit to go in this debate section? Admins do not want to make subjects that will have become inactive.... \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) What subjects would be allowed? We would have to make new rules for such a subject. Questions like, should I go out with X or Y will pop up. Other questions such as, what do you think about somebody blahblah will be posted...

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @sleepyhead314 debates normally have topics most of the time, they fit in the school categories that we already have ^_^ \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) And the ones that don't?

OpenStudy (♪chibiterasu):

We also have Hippocampus Religion if you can believe that.

OpenStudy (sleepyhead314):

*can't think of ones that don't atm* and if they can't then I suppose there's no point in discussing it on a study help site

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Hate questions will also pop up in the "debate" section.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

We have the English section that you can use for EDUCATIONAL debates....then there is also the writing section to show your debate and have people look at it :)

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

That's exactly what I'm saying SleepyHead314. Some questions don't fit on this site but will still be posted anyways.

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

Or you could use the English subject to get more like a viewpoint :P

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

And plus you will get ALOT of notifications and come back to OS and see 2000 notifications likes this question.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @vera_ewing Of course spam will pop up in the debate section, but that's the same with any other section. \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) But it will pop up A LOT MORE in the debate section.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Not always.

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

There will be a bunch of lower ss users that will abuse the section. The Music section was once nearly deleted, too.

OpenStudy (sleepyhead314):

like this one for example? I've said what I wanted to say, but now I'm getting drowned in notifications xD

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Think realistically.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

1) The section is not needed it will cause bullying 2) I think the devs have alot on their hands at the moment 3) If you have a suggestion put it in the suggestion box :3 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1gbJyuidaelKd6L9uwX68yWGdF5sSUKGGPSIW1EFH7To/viewform This is the list of ideas that have been submitted: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aipa7vnafVHHdF9ieTBXMXRYZW9ZdE9CUExtdUpHeEE&usp=sharing

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

me to @sleepyhead314

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

Oh, Thomaster will have a fit. x'D

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

I posted around 20 suggestions.

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

He doesn't really see them all.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

thomas and friends must have been glad to see them ;)

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

No problem =) @confluxepic he checks them ocasionally

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

What I mean by that is the amount of suggestions that have increased since I last went on there o_o

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

Make sure to include a link to this post so he knows all the pros and cons.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Oh in the future use that :)

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

I don't get why the replies are mixing up...

OpenStudy (sleepyjess):

You can practice your debate skills on pretty much any newspaper site. Just go to an article, read it, comment your point of view with supporting evidence. People will either agree with your point of view and back it up or disagree with your view and contradict it with their own supporting evidence. When they disagree, you reply back refuting their post.

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

I do enjoy going to debate.com and seeing what others have to say there. ^_^

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

http://www.debate.org/

OpenStudy (confluxepic):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @EclipsedStar I do enjoy going to debate.com and seeing what others have to say there. ^_^ \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Debate.com doesn't exist.

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

http://www.debate.com/ lel

eclipsedstar (eclipsedstar):

My bad, lol

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