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OpenStudy (studygurl14):

What's the opposite of log? I mean, if I was solving something like this: log y = 2, how would I find y?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

@mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

The inverse of \(log_{10}(x)\) is \(10^x\). The inverse of \(log_{e}(x)\) is \(e^x\). For example, y=\(log_{10}(x)\), then \(x=e^y\). log(y)=4 then y=e^4 (for log base e) log10(y)=1.5, then y=10^(1.5) etc.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

If my problem just says log, do I assume it is base 10?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

*\(y=log_{e}(x)\), then \(x=e^y.\)

OpenStudy (mathmate):

It depends on the level of your class. In universities, usually it's log_e. In high school, it's mostly log10. I suggest you check what the teacher does in other situations.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

hmm....my lessons say this: log y = – 0.1523 + 0.0414x Now to solve the equation for y, so we don’t have to deal with the logarithm. Start by exponentiating, then using properties of logarithms to solve for y-hat. This could also be done using ln or natural logarithms. The only difference would be base e instead of base 10.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Another way to check, if you have done Calculus in your other courses, it's a good indication that log means log_e.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

For regression lines, you can get the correct answer using log10 or log e, it's just the resulting equation would be different. I suggest you use ln since you're doing stats and other calculus stuff.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

So it doesn't matter what I use?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

And how would I use ln?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I remember learning this, but totally forget...

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

@mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

If you're doing regression, the difference between the two logs is just a constant multiplier, that's why the resulting equation will be different...oooh, the residues will be different too. However, if you use each equation to get y_hat, they should be the same. Try it for yourself!

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Okay, that makes sense. But how do I use ln again?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

is that the e thing you showed up above?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

@mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Depending on the data, you could be transforming data where x'=log(x), assuming the transformation linearizes the function. The linear regression line would then be y=ax'+b. To find x for a given value of y, you start from y=ax'+b, y=a log(x)+b log(x)=(y-b)/a x=e^((y-b)/a). That's where the inverse might come in.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Okay, thanks. I'll try that.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

You're welcome! :)

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