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zarkam21:

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zarkam21:

so 4y=3x+2

Vocaloid:

actually let me rephrase that

Vocaloid:

when I say "re-arrange" we are not just moving the terms around, we are actually adding/subtracting terms from each side

zarkam21:

and solving for y?

Vocaloid:

yes

zarkam21:

zarkam21:

Actually linear equation is where i struggle am i on the right track

Vocaloid:

watch your signs 0 - 3x is -3x

Vocaloid:

so now we have 4y + 2 = -3x then we just subtract 2 from each side to isolate 4y

zarkam21:

so -3x+0

zarkam21:

so we do not include the zero

Vocaloid:

yes, the right hand side should be -3x

Vocaloid:

nah, since -3x + 0 is just - 3x

Vocaloid:

keeping the extra + 0 just clutters things

zarkam21:

and end up with 4y=-3x-2

Vocaloid:

good now we divide both sides by 4

zarkam21:

\[y=-\frac{ 3 }{ 4 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\]

zarkam21:

3/4x

Vocaloid:

good, and since this is the standard form of a linear equation, the original equation is linear

Vocaloid:

as another thing to write, you could mention that all variables have exponents of 1 making the equation linear

zarkam21:

okay that was part a and b right

Vocaloid:

just a

Vocaloid:

for b take a look at the table. is x changing by the same amount each time? what about y?

zarkam21:

yes the x variable is changing by x2 and the y variable by like 1 to 5 is 5 ,,, 5 to 15 is 10,,, 15 to 30 is 15

Vocaloid:

good, so the y values are not increasing by the same amount each time

Vocaloid:

going from 1 to 5 is a smaller jump than going from 15 to 30

Vocaloid:

making the equation nonlinear

Vocaloid:

c is kind of hard to explain but I will do my best

Vocaloid:

after 0 hour, one person (besides the original person) knows the secret after 1 hour, that one person tells another person so now 2 people know the secret after 2 hours, those 2 people tell 2 more people, so now 4 people know the secret in total after 3 hours, those 4 people each tell 4 other people so 8 people know the secret notice how the number of people is growing by a non-constant number each time?

zarkam21:

yes

zarkam21:

it is linear

zarkam21:

because both n and t are increasing at a specific rate

Vocaloid:

to be linear, the increase in the number of people would have to be the same

Vocaloid:

we jump from 1 to 2, then to 4 then to 8 people

zarkam21:

oh okay so it is not

zarkam21:

because its not increasing by the same amount right

Vocaloid:

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Vocaloid:

right that's correct

Vocaloid:

you could help explain this by making a table of the number of hours since the secret has been told vs, the number of people who know the secret (using the numbers I have shown)

Vocaloid:

then explain how the change in # of people is not constant

zarkam21:

okay so I would make a table and then explain by saying that the change in the number of people is not constant because the increase in the number is not the same.

Vocaloid:

yes

Vocaloid:

"rate of change" is a better way to say it

Vocaloid:

"the rate of change in N (the number of people) is not constant when the rate of change in t (time) is constant" something like that

zarkam21:

is n taking the place of x?

zarkam21:

because I don't want to switch up the values

zarkam21:

on the table

Vocaloid:

normally x is independent and y is dependent in this case N is the dependent and t is the independent

Vocaloid:

so x ---> t y ---> N

zarkam21:

thanxxxxx

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