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zarkam21:

ANswer check

zarkam21:

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zarkam21:

@Vocaloid

Vocaloid:

yeah that should be right

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

oh make sure you don't skip the second bullet point for #1

zarkam21:

I wasn't sure how to do that one :S

Vocaloid:

it's the same logic, you just want Aa Bb, Dd instead it says that the E gene can be ee, Ee, or EE so that covers all possibilities so you only need consider the A, B, and D genes

zarkam21:

and make punnet squares for them right

zarkam21:

i mean like separate ones or combine them

Vocaloid:

you already made punnet squares so you just need to calculate the probability of AaBbDd based on what you already did

zarkam21:

and add them?

zarkam21:

1/2+1/2+1/2?

Vocaloid:

notice how you multiplied for the previous problem, right? so the calculation shouldn't be any different, you would multiply not add.

Vocaloid:

anyway when you get back, for #2 it's asking for the genotypes, not the probabilities you have a 3:1 ratio between the 4-pod green leaf + 4 pod-yellow leaf so you need to figure out what the genotypes of the parents are likely to be

zarkam21:

oh okay got it 1.25%

Vocaloid:

1.25? I think you shifted a decimal place, 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 should be 1/8 = .125

Vocaloid:

so 12.5%

zarkam21:

Okay yeah your right. OKay so for number 2 I would just do a punnet square the way I did and figure out the parents from that

Vocaloid:

it would be a waste of time to try and calculate each possible punnet square consider each trait separately: if all the resulting plants have 4 pods, not 3, what is the most likely genotype of the parents?

zarkam21:

F

zarkam21:

its more dominant

Vocaloid:

remember that genotypes have two alleles, so if there are only F alleles, both parents must be FF any ideas on the leaf color? 3:1 ration between green and yellow --> what genotypes?

zarkam21:

Gg

Vocaloid:

awesome so FFGg

Vocaloid:

next one is a bit harder but since half have green leaves and half have yellow leaves what are your thoughts?

zarkam21:

50/50

zarkam21:

so um it would be FFGG?

Vocaloid:

hm, no, that would make every offspring have the same genotype

zarkam21:

OH right okay so it would ge FfGg

zarkam21:

I think :S

Vocaloid:

almost let's consider the traits separately we have a 3:1 ratio between 4-pods and 3-pods and a 1:1 ratio between yellow and green so thinking back to 2*2 crosses what genotype ratios give you these phenotype ratios?

Vocaloid:

remember, parents do not have to have the same genotype

zarkam21:

Well FfGg gives 3:1, we know that

Vocaloid:

consider F and G separately

Vocaloid:

the F-allele must give a 3:1 ratio the G-allele must give a 1:1 ratio

zarkam21:

Would I refer back to the square I made :S

Vocaloid:

think about a 2*2 cross two heterozygotes give a 3:1 ratio right? and a heterozygote + homozygous recessive gives a 1:1 ratio right? so putting this logic together, what must the genotypes of the parents be? you will have to write a different genotype for each parent

zarkam21:

Okay so hetero would be FfGg and homo would be FG ?

zarkam21:

:S

zarkam21:

OHhh

zarkam21:

I know

Vocaloid:

both of them are heterozygotes for F --> both are Ff for G, one of them is a heterozygote and the other is a homozygous recessive --> one of them is Gg and the other is gg

Vocaloid:

now try writing out the full genotypes

zarkam21:

FfGg Ffgg

Vocaloid:

good since it asks to show the crosses, you would show the crosses for the genotypes we determined so for A show FFGg * FFGg and for B show FfGg * Ffgg

Vocaloid:

like, the punnet squares

zarkam21:

would this be 2x2 or 4x4

Vocaloid:

these are dihybrid crosses so 4x4

zarkam21:

THe crosses would be FG, Fg, Gg, gF?

zarkam21:

the double ff's are throwing me off when im drawing the square

zarkam21:

Like at the top of the swuare those would be the 4 values right

Vocaloid:

almost (personally I'd write the F's first to get FG, Fg, FG, Fg)

Vocaloid:

since both parents in A have the same genotype, the left side is also the same 4 allele combos

zarkam21:

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Vocaloid:

remember you group the same letter together when you write genotypes FFGG not FGFG

zarkam21:

wait this would be part A right :S

zarkam21:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Vocaloid good since it asks to show the crosses, you would show the crosses for the genotypes we determined so for A show FFGg * FFGg and for B show FfGg * Ffgg \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Vocaloid:

that's part B

Vocaloid:

\\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Vocaloid good since it asks to show the crosses, you would show the crosses for the genotypes we determined so for A show FFGg * FFGg and for B show FfGg * Ffgg \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Vocaloid:

but either way you need to re-do your part A anyway since you wrote the genotype alleles in the wrong order

zarkam21:

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zarkam21:

so this is right for part B

Vocaloid:

\\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Vocaloid good since it asks to show the crosses, you would show the crosses for the genotypes we determined so for A show FFGg * FFGg and for B show FfGg * Ffgg \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) part A asks for FFGg * FFGg, you wrote that in the part B slot instead

Vocaloid:

copy the FFGg * FFGg punnet square into part A, then for part B write the FfGg * Ffgg punnet square

zarkam21:

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zarkam21:

are these the right crosses for Part B

Vocaloid:

for top parent: should be FG Fg fg fg (change the third one) for other parent: Fg Fg fg fg (notice how there are no capital G's since parent 2 has no capital G alleles)

zarkam21:

BUt there is a capital F. that wouldn't matteR?

Vocaloid:

the f allele does not influence the g allele

zarkam21:

Got it finally

zarkam21:

SO for this problem its only asking for the ratio

zarkam21:

how would I determine whether its asking for the ratio or the percentage

Vocaloid:

what no, it's asking for the genotypes, you need to know the ratios to be able to find out what the genotypes are if it wants the ratios/percentages it will ask for them

zarkam21:

no no . i meant in any given problem

zarkam21:

nvm

Vocaloid:

it'll specify ratios or percentages, if not, either is acceptable since they both are just different ways to express the same thing

Vocaloid:

I think ratios would be better though

zarkam21:

perfect thanks

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