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austierena:

i need help with a claim for against abortion

Hoodmemes:

against abortion?

austierena:

yes

Hoodmemes:

U cant be against abortion fr right? u just debating right?

gggggggggggg12:

Well one thing against it is killing unborn babies and most of the time putting them into vaccines we use. Which could actually cause women to not be able to have children because of the aborted babies in the vaccines.

austierena:

yea im just debating and this is the topic i got so i need help

austierena:

i like need a claim

Hoodmemes:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @gggggggggggg12 Well one thing against it is killing unborn babies and most of the time putting them into vaccines we use. Which could actually cause women to not be able to have children because of the aborted babies in the vaccines. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) not true some women can still have babied even if they abort,and u cant be fr about killing a un born organism,some ppl dont know what the mother is going through in the situatation and why she wants or needs a abortion.

Hoodmemes:

*babies

gggggggggggg12:

Well some will still have the ability to have children if they have had the vaccines before 2010 but since then aborted babies have been added in the vaccines.

Hoodmemes:

And what kind of vaccines are u talking about rn

gggggggggggg12:

Basically austierena babyies that are aborted are thrown in the trash like no joke outside garabage. and many cells and other parts of babies make it to the newer measles and polio vaccine shots.

austierena:

i feel bad for the babies but the mother could be going through something im not really for or against abortion

mxddi3:

well, a woman could want an abortion because she could have been raped or because she knows she will not be able to provide the right care for her baby, however, there are alternate choices like adoption. If she is worried about having to give her baby away, she can choose open adoption and still receive pictures of her kid growing up. @Hoodmemes

Hoodmemes:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @gggggggggggg12 Basically austierena babyies that are aborted are thrown in the trash like no joke outside garabage. and many cells and other parts of babies make it to the newer measles and polio vaccine shots. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) im still wondering why u are saying aborting a bay is wrong,its like nobody think of the mothers situation in the matter of the problem

gggggggggggg12:

measles and polio

mxddi3:

abortion is not wrong or right, it is up to the woman and her circumstances. If she feels it is 1000% necessary, then so be it. People should not be judged for their views about abortion on this site guys, we are here to help one another.

Hoodmemes:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @mxddi3 well, a woman could want an abortion because she could have been raped or because she knows she will not be able to provide the right care for her baby, however, there are alternate choices like adoption. If she is worried about having to give her baby away, she can choose open adoption and still receive pictures of her kid growing up. @Hoodmemes \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Most mothers cant deal with the feeling of guilt whe they think about how they handed the baby there own blood into another families hands,like honestly u dont just want pics of your child u want the real thing some mothers just cant handle all that

gggggggggggg12:

abortion is your choice so it is your opinion if it wrong or right but in my opinion it is an escape for some but a way of not ruining your life for others

Hoodmemes:

but honestly its a 50 50 with this debate on which side would be correct

mxddi3:

@Hoodmemes i see wym ab feeling guilty but she could also feel guilty about taking away the chance of her child to have a life.

Hoodmemes:

yup

gggggggggggg12:

yes it really depending on who you are and who the judges are. if they are really strong Christians they might be against it but maybe a mother who ruined her life with an early pregnancy

Hoodmemes:

anyway \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @austierena yes \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) anyway the debate of the three users including me,should be enough info for u if im correct?

Hoodmemes:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @gggggggggggg12 yes it really depending on who you are and who the judges are. if they are really strong Christians they might be against it but maybe a mother who ruined her life with an early pregnancy \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) there are no judges in the debate of a mothers thoughts of if she should or should not keep her baby.

gggggggggggg12:

no the judges in debate

Hoodmemes:

ooh

mxddi3:

GUYSSSSSSSSSSS, we're here to help the user write a claim, please, let's help them

Hoodmemes:

we just did

mxddi3:

we didn't actually help, we were just arguing

mxddi3:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @mxddi3 we didn't actually help, we were just arguing \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) debating*

gggggggggggg12:

but personally I am against abortion and @hoodmemes and I and @msddi3 did just provide a reasonable debate with facts and opinions

gggggggggggg12:

*@mxddi3

Hoodmemes:

we had a debate stating facts on why a mother would abort or would not abort a baby,we stated many claims in the matter

mxddi3:

i myself am against it if the woman is more than 3 months pregnant

Hoodmemes:

i have to say im not against abortion

mxddi3:

i think it can be legal up until 3 months, then it shouldn't be done.

gggggggggggg12:

@mxddi3 on that point I agree after the first trimester the heart and brain start to mature so it is killing.

Hoodmemes:

I mean ye giving the mother 3 months to decide is a good plan

Hoodmemes:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @gggggggggggg12 @mxddi3 on that point I agree after the first trimester the heart and brain start to mature so it is killing. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) its just a developing organism at that point

gggggggggggg12:

it is a child at that point

mxddi3:

if there is a heart, it's a human t that point, and that is taking the life of a helpless child.

Hoodmemes:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @gggggggggggg12 it is a child at that point \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) i would say its not a child at that point.

mxddi3:

at*

mxddi3:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Hoodmemes \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @gggggggggggg12 it is a child at that point \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) i would say its not a child at that point. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) call it a human being--which is what it is at this point

gggggggggggg12:

@mxddi3 yes the heart is maturing in the second trimester

gggggggggggg12:

i just did a presentation about this

Hoodmemes:

if the brain is still developing then it should just be called a living organsism intill the body is fully developed inside of the womb

Hoodmemes:

but ya know every body has differnt opinions upon the subject

mxddi3:

it has a heartbeat, it's a living human being. It has a life and it is innocent. It did not ask to be conceived, so if it's the second trimester or up, the mother shouldn't be allowed to abort. 3 months is long enough to decide if u wanna have a kid or not

Hoodmemes:

i say other wise but ok.

gggggggggggg12:

so basically I am on saying abortions are killing after the heart beats and you have had three months to decide

mxddi3:

\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Hoodmemes i say other wise but ok. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) that's fine! I love hearing yalls opinions and learning new things from yall !

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