Should the death penalty by abolished? Should everyone have the right to own a gun?
What’s the question to this?
Or are they both questions in general or should you chose one?
Do you have any further information?
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Trios Or are they both questions in general or should you chose one? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) General
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 Do you have any further information? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) No my history teacher is making us have a debate
Ah.. well Hmmm How can i answer this without giving a direct answer?
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 Ah.. well Hmmm How can i answer this without giving a direct answer? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) You can give a direct answer. It is a debate
Oh hm
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 Ah.. well Hmmm How can i answer this without giving a direct answer? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) You can give a direct answer. It is a debate \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Otay..
I am suppose to ask someone their opinion and debate the opposite
I agree about the death Penalty. It should be abolished. BUT then again someone had to do something lucid to get there. In this case it would be a diffucult answer. It morally depends on the situation.
Do you think it is right or wrong generally speaking?
I think its wrong. People dont deserve death but they can use a life sentence. Isnt a life sentence enough?
No It shouldn't be abolished, because getting life for murder or something just keeps you around other prisoners and iffffffffffffff a serial killer were to be locked up they'd still be around others and would harm them when guards arent around therefore the death penalty would be useful What prision do you know of have kept prisoners in solitary confinement for years
The death penalty shouldn't be abolished some ppl actually kill their babies and beat them up those ppl should definitely get the death penalty smh
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IamAku No It shouldn't be abolished, because getting life for murder or something just keeps you around other prisoners and iffffffffffffff a serial killer were to be locked up they'd still be around others and would harm them when guards arent around therefore the death penalty would be useful What prision do you know of have kept prisoners in solitary confinement for years \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So what about the right ti life?
Do people have teh right to own a gun? If they have a history of murders or anything near that I wouldnt trust them. Then again there are people that use it for protection. So I would say it depends on who they are now...
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IamAku No It shouldn't be abolished, because getting life for murder or something just keeps you around other prisoners and iffffffffffffff a serial killer were to be locked up they'd still be around others and would harm them when guards arent around therefore the death penalty would be useful What prision do you know of have kept prisoners in solitary confinement for years \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So what about the right ti life? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) They wouldnt deserve it if they were a serial killer....
So your saying they lost their rights have they've commited a crime?
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 Do people have teh right to own a gun? If they have a history of murders or anything near that I wouldnt trust them. Then again there are people that use it for protection. So I would say it depends on who they are now... \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) We are speaking in general
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa The death penalty shouldn't be abolished some ppl actually kill their babies and beat them up those ppl should definitely get the death penalty smh \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So, the right to live is gone when they kill someone?
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa The death penalty shouldn't be abolished some ppl actually kill their babies and beat them up those ppl should definitely get the death penalty smh \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So, the right to live is gone when they kill someone? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) well, ig
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 Do people have teh right to own a gun? If they have a history of murders or anything near that I wouldnt trust them. Then again there are people that use it for protection. So I would say it depends on who they are now... \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) We are speaking in general \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) I know.. So i think that yes they should have the right to use a gun under certain Circumstances.
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa The death penalty shouldn't be abolished some ppl actually kill their babies and beat them up those ppl should definitely get the death penalty smh \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So, the right to live is gone when they kill someone? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) well, ig \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence. The phrase gives three examples of the unalienable rights which the Declaration says have been given to all humans. unalienable: cannot be taken away, denied, or transferred to another person
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 Do people have teh right to own a gun? If they have a history of murders or anything near that I wouldnt trust them. Then again there are people that use it for protection. So I would say it depends on who they are now... \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) We are speaking in general \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) I know.. So i think that yes they should have the right to use a gun under certain Circumstances. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So, everyone should have the right to own a gun
@ Laylalyssa In civilized society, we reject the principle of literally doing to criminals what they do to their victims: The penalty for rape cannot be rape, or for arson, the burning down of the arsonist’s house. We should not, therefore, punish the murderer with death
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER @ Laylalyssa In civilized society, we reject the principle of literally doing to criminals what they do to their victims: The penalty for rape cannot be rape, or for arson, the burning down of the arsonist’s house. We should not, therefore, punish the murderer with death \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) @Laylalyssa
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Astrid1 Do people have teh right to own a gun? If they have a history of murders or anything near that I wouldnt trust them. Then again there are people that use it for protection. So I would say it depends on who they are now... \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) We are speaking in general \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) I know.. So i think that yes they should have the right to use a gun under certain Circumstances. \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So, everyone should have the right to own a gun \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Yes, Under certian Circumstances. As long as they use it properly yes. If they misuse it and get caught then they go to jail.
So, ever murders and psychopath should be allowed to have guns? Even the trigger happy people and robbers?
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER @ Laylalyssa In civilized society, we reject the principle of literally doing to criminals what they do to their victims: The penalty for rape cannot be rape, or for arson, the burning down of the arsonist’s house. We should not, therefore, punish the murderer with death \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) yk that thing where they did an eye for an eye, arm for an arm this could be death for a death 😈
its fair
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER @ Laylalyssa In civilized society, we reject the principle of literally doing to criminals what they do to their victims: The penalty for rape cannot be rape, or for arson, the burning down of the arsonist’s house. We should not, therefore, punish the murderer with death \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) yk that thing where they did an eye for an eye, arm for an arm this could be death for a death 😈 \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) Are you religious?
y does that matter
Indeed, nowadays the death penalty is unacceptable, however grave the crime of the convicted person. It is an offence to the inviolability of life and to the dignity of the human person; it likewise contradicts God’s plan for individuals and society, and his merciful justice. Nor is it consonant with any just purpose of punishment. It does not render justice to victims, but instead fosters vengeance. The commandment ‘Thou shalt not kill’ has absolute value and applies both to the innocent and to the guilty
Also, I will contridict your verdict you said before. "An eye for and eye, arm for a arm" Executions should be banned by act of Congress for this simple reason: Experience has shown that the death penalty doesn’t serve the cause of justice… How likely is it, really, that a killer will be more deterred by the risk of the death penalty than by having to spend the rest of his life in prison? The claim fails the test of common sense. Criminologists and police chiefs say the death penalty just doesn’t influence murderers — partly because its application is so haphazard… It’s true that the purpose of punishment is not only deterrence but also retribution. But this doesn’t justify the popular view that killers should be killed, any more than it would support the idea that rapists should be raped or thieves stolen from. To be just, retribution must be measured and restrained. That’s the difference between justice and revenge
Well, everybody is going to die anyways, also everything you do in the world comes back to you so if someone hit someone in the face, then there going to get hit in the face its like, no matter what it will come back to you the death penalty being the karma, since you did whatever crime then u get the death penalty
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa Well, everybody is going to die anyways, also everything you do in the world comes back to you so if someone hit someone in the face, then there going to get hit in the face its like, no matter what it will come back to you the death penalty being the karma, since you did whatever crime then u get the death penalty \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) I will repeat, there is a difference between justice and revenge
well revenge jus happens whether u want it to or not
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa well revenge jus happens whether u want it to or not \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) so is revenge justifiable?
@Laylalyssa I state the desire to take revenge may be justified by the incapacity of the legal system of justice to fully restore the previous situation; but we cannot appeal to justice for help; only for condonation. Revenge can never be part of the system of justice; nor can it be justified as 'just'
Death is not only an unusually severe punishment, unusual in its pain, in its finality, and in its enormity, but it serves no penal purpose more effectively than a less severe punishment; therefore the principle inherent in the Clause that prohibits pointless infliction of excessive punishment when less severe punishment can adequately achieve the same purposes invalidates the punishment.
jus that the death penalty is something that, when ppl do something rly bad then they deserve the penalty, bc otherwise they would do it again
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa jus that the death penalty is something that, when ppl do something rly bad then they deserve the penalty, bc otherwise they would do it again \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) so killing someone will have the same result as a less punishment
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa jus that the death penalty is something that, when ppl do something rly bad then they deserve the penalty, bc otherwise they would do it again \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) so killing someone will have the same result as a less punishment \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) what does that mean
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa jus that the death penalty is something that, when ppl do something rly bad then they deserve the penalty, bc otherwise they would do it again \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) so killing someone will have the same result as a less punishment \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) what does that mean \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) What does the 8th amendment say?
who knows
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
I know that killing ppl isn't right, but the thing is if you killed someone you should get killed
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa I know that killing ppl isn't right, but the thing is if you killed someone you should get killed \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) again revenge is't morally right nor is justifiable
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa I know that killing ppl isn't right, but the thing is if you killed someone you should get killed \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) again revenge is't morally right nor is justifiable \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) but it still is going to happen either way
\(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @IMURDADDY4EVER \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Laylalyssa I know that killing ppl isn't right, but the thing is if you killed someone you should get killed \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) again revenge is't morally right nor is justifiable \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) but it still is going to happen either way \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\) So, you have no backup for your opinion
It is true, everything you do comes back to you so, when you kill someone you will get killed
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