I have recently been brought to the realization that God does indeed NOT love me. Now I know what most of you would say "No god loves everyone" If you are a Christian you have been lied to and you have no chance of forgiveness. All that god has promised his people (Israel) goes to them. Any other nation is not worthy of God's forgiveness. Even me. This hit me hard and I have been crying ever since I was given proof. I was given a chance for truth by the lovely @Hero who does their best not to lie and provided evidence to everything he told me. I would like to give you the chance of truth too. Trust me you will know if you are of Israel. Most likely you are not. You have no chance of forgiveness and you are only to be judged by God because you are in the nation of god's enemies. You are of sin and only of sin. Do not attempt repetition. Does God hate you? Yes, yes he does. But there is still hope for you. When the Israelites were forced from their land they were scattered across the border in 3 ways: Slavery, fleeing their enemies, or Voluntary Migration, so you may be an Israelite and not know. Even if you are amongst an enemy nation of God, if you are or just so happen to be an Israelite this will not affect you. I am tired of being lied to but this is too far. This is something I believed in my whole freaking life. So what does this mean for me? Where do we REALLY go when we die?

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Renne · Answer

I wish this was not true for me..but it is.

Hero · Answer

Oh boy

SpringDev · Answer

i would like to say that i have known this for a long while, im gonna be honest, i dont believe in any gods, because when i used to pray id pray for my family to come out of the hospital alive, never happened, after, i prayed for happiness, again, no

gcc8617 · Answer

What sister you lyin 😔 I dont belive u im telling tete 🥺

Renne · Answer

I wish i had known. This hits hard. What am I going to church for? God doesn't even CLAIM Christians! Did you know that?

Renne · Answer

He claims his choosen the Israelites.

theyfwjay · Answer

@hero come deal with this

chuckthedonut · Answer

Wait...so are you saying he hates me...?

theyfwjay · Answer

no

Renne · Answer

No, he does. Unless he actually answers when you pray. Then you're an Israel.

Renne · Answer

I am not an isarel

Dolphan · Answer

Literally was told that God does NOT love everyone. I am christian and I have been lied to my whole life. Its sad to see some pastors failing young children to young adults to elders. We have all been lied to. Its really sad.

Renne · Answer

It is and it's my whole life..to worship and bow down to him? well, forget it.

Beanie · Answer

Hold on- that is not true love. And spring dev,  just bc u pray doesn’t mean you’ll get an answer. Maybe in the future he’ll make u happy. U said ur happy with bloss, there’s ur answered prayer….

Hero · Answer

The one thing in the Bible that Christian churches confuse is the concept of Love. The biblical understanding of Love is not the worldly understanding. Think about that.

chuckthedonut · Answer

Wait, so if I wasn't born in Israel he hates me?

chuckthedonut · Answer

@chuckthedonut wrote:

Wait, so if I wasn't born in Israel he hates me?

I wasn't born there-

Beanie · Answer

No God loves each and every person. Even if they don’t believe in Him.

Hero · Answer

@beanie wrote:

No God loves each and every person. Even if they don’t believe in Him.

Go read Romans 9:13 and Malachi 1:1-4 then come back here.

Renne · Answer

FRL

Beanie · Answer

Romans is not spoken by God

Hero · Answer

@chuckthedonut wrote:

Wait, so if I wasn't born in Israel he hates me?

I wasn't born there-

Israel is a people and a lineage and a blood line first. Your lineage matters more than where you were born.

chuckthedonut · Answer

I wasn't born in Israel, why does he hate me then? I love him sm, he answers my prayers,

Renne · Answer

THEN U MAY BE AN ISRAEL

Renne · Answer

YOUR SO FREAKING LUCKY

Hero · Answer

@beanie wrote:

Romans is not spoken by God

Psalms 68:11 “The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.”

Beanie · Answer

They are not Israel. They believe in God and don’t let their faith break by those who don’t believe in Him Bloss.

Renne · Answer

This is NOT my fault.

Hero · Answer

Sorry. Gotta go guys. Have to finish work and my Warriors are playing tonight. Good luck.

Beanie · Answer

Not saying it is. I’m saying you shouldn’t let other people break your faith

Renne · Answer

HE GAVE ME PROOF

chuckthedonut · Answer

@renne wrote:

THEN U MAY BE AN ISRAEL

I hope I am, he means a lot to me and my family. When I got baptized I had a warm feeling, and what was weird was when my dad went to the temple he was talking abt something abt god and my dad doesn't do that much, so that was incredible.

Renne · Answer

My real name is faith so don't-

Renne · Answer

Ask @hero  @chuckthedonut

chuckthedonut · Answer

@renne wrote:

Ask @hero @chuckthedonut

What do i ask @hero ??

Dolphan · Answer

Their is plently of prood. Ya'll can't accept the truth that Christianity is all a lie. We have all been lied to our whole life

Renne · Answer

If you may be a Isreal

chuckthedonut · Answer

This is sooo confusing, I know he loves me because he answers me, he cares abt me and my family. Ik it's true.

Renne · Answer

@dolphan I know right

Renne · Answer

Truth hurts

Renne · Answer

Take the pain and...move on

Renne · Answer

I will now attempt suicide byyyeeee!

MEANIEdummy · Answer

Fun

Renne · Answer

Honest question. Would God answer my prayer if I asked him to kill m since he hates me-?

MEANIEdummy · Answer

Uhhh no

chuckthedonut · Answer

@renne wrote:

Take the pain and...move on

But I thought he loved me, I'll just have to wait for @hero to finish so I can have an answer. I hope I'm an Israel so he can love me as much as I love him..

Renne · Answer

If he doesn't, welcome to the club if he does, then look down at me from heaven

chuckthedonut · Answer

:(

Renne · Answer

What?

chuckthedonut · Answer

Idk, it just makes me sad to think abt him not loving me.

Renne · Answer

Well God is God...I felt like whenever I prayed he was there but...

EpicLeo · Answer

I Was Born in Israel But My Family Move to Germany When I Was Young

Tbone · Answer

Well in that case then i guess me and god have a mutual understanding

Renne · Answer

@epicleo wrote:

I Was Born in Israel But My Family Move to Germany When I Was Young

No, Isreal are people chosen by God. Not the country or the town or the state or city.

EpicLeo · Answer

Is This in Christianity or Is It Also in Judaism

Renne · Answer

This is the truth of EVERYTHING

Rigo · Answer

Great stuff!

Rigo · Answer

@hero is stupid

Hero · Answer

@rigo wrote:

@hero is stupid

Well I'm not the OP. The presentation could have been better.

Rigo · Answer

John 3:16 assures us that, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” Then there's Romans 5:8, which says, “God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

Renne · Answer

@hero wrote:

@rigo wrote:

@hero is stupid

Well I'm not the OP. The presentation could have been better.

How is this my fault-?!

Tbone · Answer

@renne wrote:

I will now attempt suicide byyyeeee!

You better not.

Tbone · Answer

So if god doesn't love us. The everything in the bible is fake. Huh crazy. Well at least Satan will accept you the way you are. Don't gotta change for him.

jose214 · Answer

No where in the bible says that God Loves Everyone. So I guess Tbone is right.

Renne · Answer

truth hurts.

Renne · Answer

finna post my poem about that

jose214 · Answer

Really does.

EpicLeo · Answer

I Think I Know What She is Saying: This is Exodus 33:19 From The Talmud “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim before you the name יהוה, and the grace that I grant and the compassion that I show,”

EpicLeo · Answer

After That It Talk About Him Showing Mercy to Only Those Who Show It Back

Renne · Answer

But that compassion and grace is not shown to us

EpicLeo · Answer

No I Meant to Quote What He Say After That "I who show favor to whom I will, I who grant mercy to whom I will."
I Can See What You Mean by God Chosen People

EpicLeo · Answer

Who He Will Show Mercy to Could be Those Chosen People

Renne · Answer

@gcc8617 wrote:

What sister you lyin 😔 I dont belive u im telling tete 🥺

I'm sorry lil sis...talk to me when you get back in the room.

Shadow · Answer

@renne Just because someone says something, it doesn't mean it is true. I would encourage you to research for yourself and find out if Hero's claims truly pan out. You can likely reach out to a local church/pastor and I'm sure they would be happy explore this perspective. Because to my knowledge, Hero's perspective is an extremely rare perspective in the wide spectrum of Christian faith.

Think of this for example. Imagine you go into a city and ask the first stranger you find "What's the best restaurant in this city?" They might tell you a great answer, and be extremely passionate about it. Perhaps they are even right. But perhaps that person has never gone to the south side of the city, and never explored the rich cultural restaurants in that area. They might be wrong, because they do not know everything of that subject, and maybe they have a limited view.

I encourage you to broaden your perspective and inform yourself. It is a skill that will keep you above the attempts to control what you believe, feel, and think.

Renne · Answer

Well...then Jesus here I come i guess..

yellojang · Answer

wait but then, once again, isn't everyone related to each other- so doesn't that make us technically descendants or something whether or not we have direct ancestry to the Israelites? (correct me if im wrong)

Echofire · Answer

Everyone, all of humanity, is on the same boat, we have sinned and deserve the same punishment. Out of love, God sent in Jesus and He is prophesized to return. By being saved and the world and other realms being cleansed and renewed by God will we be free from this wicked world and forces of evil.

rocfp · Answer

@renne wrote:

It is and it's my whole life..to worship and bow down to him? well, forget it.

Do you think Jesus would have killed himself for no reason at all? You should be grateful, there IS a God, if there want I would not have been here.

Renne · Answer

@rocfp wrote:

@renne wrote:

It is and it's my whole life..to worship and bow down to him? well, forget it.

Do you think Jesus would have killed himself for no reason at all? You should be grateful, there IS a God, if there want I would not have been here.

...I'm researching it...I still believe In God and I want to earn my place amongst the angels in heaven. I am trying hard to.

rocfp · Answer

God opened up so many possibilities, he allows you to breath, he allows you to wake up every morning, he allows you to see, to walk, to talk, to read, to write, and draw. He is real.

rocfp · Answer

@renne wrote:

@rocfp wrote:

@renne wrote:

It is and it's my whole life..to worship and bow down to him? well, forget it.

Do you think Jesus would have killed himself for no reason at all? You should be grateful, there IS a God, if there want I would not have been here.

...I'm researching it...I still believe In God and I want to earn my place amongst the angels in heaven. I am trying hard to.

And you can.

Renne · Answer

I do not know. I was given evidence of both and I don't know what to believe. If God loves us (and put it in the bible) Then why would he also put that he only loves Israel?

rocfp · Answer

@renne wrote:

I do not know. I was given evidence of both and I don't know what to believe. If God loves us (and put it in the bible) Then why would he also put that he only loves Israel?

God loves everyone, God sent his son Jesus to die for US, as in me, you, EVERYONE, why would he sacrifice his one and only son, if he didn't love us? Look up John 3:16, it talks about God sending his son, only son, Jesus to die for our sins. I'm not trying to pester you, but I want you to see that God loves you. No matter if you are a Christian or not. You are his child, and God loves ALL of his children.

OLIVER69 · Answer

Oh wow, now I don't know what this means for you, but considering god to me doesn't exist and we have no factual proof he exists, he shouldn't live our lives to just be judged at the end. I much rather believe in science where we have facts to back things up and stuff we have seen than believe in something that we haven't even seen, sure we saw Jesus, but never a god. I'm not saying it's wrong to believe in a god, but I don't. Also, why would I want to believe in something that is said to only Israeli people? I much rather be loved by people who exist than a god we have never seen. Also to answer the question, "Where do we go when we die?", coming from someone who doesn't believe in god, I would say our bodies are either cemented or buried in the earth while our souls can be released and watch our fellow loved ones or our souls can stay with our body and pass part of it to our next life if you believe in reincarnation.

rocfp · Answer

@oliver69 wrote:

Oh wow, now I don't know what this means for you, but considering god to me doesn't exist and we have no factual proof he exists, he shouldn't live our lives to just be judged at the end. I much rather believe in science where we have facts to back things up and stuff we have seen than believe in something that we haven't even seen, sure we saw Jesus, but never a god. I'm not saying it's wrong to believe in a god, but I don't. Also, why would I want to believe in something that is said to only Israeli people? I much rather be loved by people who exist than a god we have never seen. Also to answer the question, "Where do we go when we die?", coming from someone who doesn't believe in god, I would say our bodies are either cemented or buried in the earth while our souls can be released and watch our fellow loved ones or our souls can stay with our body and pass part of it to our next life if you believe in reincarnation.

Please capitalize God.

Renne · Answer

@rocfp wrote:

@renne wrote:

I do not know. I was given evidence of both and I don't know what to believe. If God loves us (and put it in the bible) Then why would he also put that he only loves Israel?

God loves everyone, God sent his son Jesus to die for US, as in me, you, EVERYONE, why would he sacrifice his one and only son, if he didn't love us? Look up John 3:16, it talks about God sending his son, only son, Jesus to die for our sins. I'm not trying to pester you, but I want you to see that God loves you. No matter if you are a Christian or not. You are his child, and God loves ALL of his children.

I know what that says but the bible also says otherwise like Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” but look at this Acts 5:31 “Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.”

Renne · Answer

and be right back gotta get to schol

rocfp · Answer

@renne wrote:

@rocfp wrote:

@renne wrote:

I do not know. I was given evidence of both and I don't know what to believe. If God loves us (and put it in the bible) Then why would he also put that he only loves Israel?

God loves everyone, God sent his son Jesus to die for US, as in me, you, EVERYONE, why would he sacrifice his one and only son, if he didn't love us? Look up John 3:16, it talks about God sending his son, only son, Jesus to die for our sins. I'm not trying to pester you, but I want you to see that God loves you. No matter if you are a Christian or not. You are his child, and God loves ALL of his children.

I know what that says but the bible also says otherwise like Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” but look at this Acts 5:31 “Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.”

But does it say his love is only for Isreal?

OLIVER69 · Answer

No, I don't need to capitalize god if I don't believe in him. Sorry hate to say but I'm not capitalizing an object that isn't real. At least not for me. So no.

rocfp · Answer

@oliver69 wrote:

No, I don't need to capitalize god if I don't believe in him. Sorry hate to say but I'm not capitalizing an object that isn't real. At least not for me. So no.

Well for people who are, people like me, can get offended. Can I ask you a question?

rocfp · Answer

@rocfp wrote:

@oliver69 wrote:

No, I don't need to capitalize god if I don't believe in him. Sorry hate to say but I'm not capitalizing an object that isn't real. At least not for me. So no.

Well for people who are, people like me, can get offended. Can I ask you a question?

God is not an object. What makes you say so?

rocfp · Answer

If he is an object, can you use God? An object is something you can use I believe.

OLIVER69 · Answer

@rocfp wrote:

@oliver69 wrote:

No, I don't need to capitalize god if I don't believe in him. Sorry hate to say but I'm not capitalizing an object that isn't real. At least not for me. So no.

Well for people who are, people like me, can get offended. Can I ask you a question?

God is not an object. What makes you say so?

Well first of all I don't care if people get offended, the world doesn't revolve around you or them. And when I say god is an object I more mean that he isn't real, no one has ever seen him. And he doesn't exist, which I know there is a better word for it, oh I know an imaginary person.

rocfp · Answer

@oliver69 wrote:

@rocfp wrote:

@oliver69 wrote:

No, I don't need to capitalize god if I don't believe in him. Sorry hate to say but I'm not capitalizing an object that isn't real. At least not for me. So no.

Well for people who are, people like me, can get offended. Can I ask you a question?

God is not an object. What makes you say so?

Well first of all I don't care if people get offended, the world doesn't revolve around you or them. And when I say god is an object I more mean that he isn't real, no one has ever seen him. And he doesn't exist, which I know there is a better word for it, oh I know an imaginary person.

Well then that's better the using the word object, And I understand why you don't believe in him because you feel like he hasn't done anything for you? and or like you said we haven't seen him, I see where you're coming from, and if you do not believe in God, I totally understand. I don't want to pester you anymore if you don't believe me. But you did make some valid points. Have we ever seen God? No, we haven't. Why? Quite frankly I don't know.

rocfp · Answer

But even though you might not care, God does love you. You may not think he is real but he is :). But again, I see where you are coming from.

OLIVER69 · Answer

I don't mind people believing in a God, as long as they don't force me to believe in it, and as for the other question, "Has he done anything for me?" Absolutely not, if he is all high and mighty, he should be able to help this world more, instead, we may not even make it to 2075, with how our world is being treated, but that subject is for another day. And he hasn't done anything for me, my parents and I have done it all by ourselves. And I'm not going to tell you to stop believing in your God, as long as you are happy that's all that matters. Have a nice day. ^^

rocfp · Answer

@oliver69 wrote:

I don't mind people believing in a God, as long as they don't force me to believe in it, and as for the other question, "Has he done anything for me?" Absolutely not, if he is all high and mighty, he should be able to help this world more, instead, we may not even make it to 2075, with how our world is being treated, but that subject is for another day. And he hasn't done anything for me, my parents and I have done it all by ourselves. And I'm not going to tell you to stop believing in your God, as long as you are happy that's all that matters. Have a nice day. ^^

Thanks for capitalizing God, Understood, Have a good day too. :)

Bluewolf2004 · Answer

this topic hits hard. But I'm not actually Christian, Im learning the Norse ways and now I believe Odin is watching. God's do exist, and they want to see us loved, but they know they can't help because we have to learn to love ourselves first.

ElexusQuimby · Answer

Omg.  When you say this.  It kind of makes me want to start crying.  That i so true, and deep.  Thank you for sharing that.  I'm sorry that u realized that.

gcc8617 · Answer

@elexusquimby wrote:

Omg. When you say this. It kind of makes me want to start crying. That i so true, and deep. Thank you for sharing that. I'm sorry that u realized that.

How is that true ?

gcc8617 · Answer

Guys my sister is lying God is real he answers your prayers you just dont know how to listen

gcc8617 · Answer

He answers them through the bible and through your mind

ElexusQuimby · Answer

@gcc8617 wrote:

Guys my sister is lying God is real he answers your prayers you just dont know how to listen

If he answers them then how come none of my prayers have been answered? I have prayed so much about things and none have been answered.

gcc8617 · Answer

@elexusquimby wrote:

@gcc8617 wrote:

Guys my sister is lying God is real he answers your prayers you just dont know how to listen

If he answers them then how come none of my prayers have been answered? I have prayed so much about things and none have been answered.

You dont listen and you pray selfish prayers thats probaly why

gcc8617 · Answer

If you pray a prayer for God to fix your phone or sum thats not gonna work cause thats a selfish prayer
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gcc8617 · Answer

@oliver69 wrote:

I don't mind people believing in a God, as long as they don't force me to believe in it, and as for the other question, "Has he done anything for me?" Absolutely not, if he is all high and mighty, he should be able to help this world more, instead, we may not even make it to 2075, with how our world is being treated, but that subject is for another day. And he hasn't done anything for me, my parents and I have done it all by ourselves. And I'm not going to tell you to stop believing in your God, as long as you are happy that's all that matters. Have a nice day. ^^

BOY BE SO FR THE WORLD HAS TO HELP ITSELF BEFORE GOD CAN HELP ALL TYALL NOT DOIN NUN TO MAKE DIS WWORLD BETTER CMON NOW LETS BE FORREAL

gcc8617 · Answer

@oliver69 wrote:

I don't mind people believing in a God, as long as they don't force me to believe in it, and as for the other question, "Has he done anything for me?" Absolutely not, if he is all high and mighty, he should be able to help this world more, instead, we may not even make it to 2075, with how our world is being treated, but that subject is for another day. And he hasn't done anything for me, my parents and I have done it all by ourselves. And I'm not going to tell you to stop believing in your God, as long as you are happy that's all that matters. Have a nice day. ^^

AND IF GOD IS NOT REAL THEN WHO MADE THE EARTH? WHO MADE HUMANS? WHO AMDE ADAM AND EVE? OH OKAY THAT WHAT I THOUGHT

Renne · Answer

Lil sis calm down

rocfp · Answer

@gcc8617 wrote:

@oliver69 wrote:

I don't mind people believing in a God, as long as they don't force me to believe in it, and as for the other question, "Has he done anything for me?" Absolutely not, if he is all high and mighty, he should be able to help this world more, instead, we may not even make it to 2075, with how our world is being treated, but that subject is for another day. And he hasn't done anything for me, my parents and I have done it all by ourselves. And I'm not going to tell you to stop believing in your God, as long as you are happy that's all that matters. Have a nice day. ^^

AND IF GOD IS NOT REAL THEN WHO MADE THE EARTH? WHO MADE HUMANS? WHO AMDE ADAM AND EVE? OH OKAY THAT WHAT I THOUGHT

Exactly..

OLIVER69 · Answer

First of all, I am making this world a better place. I volunteer at animal shelters, I foster animals and children. I provide food, and clothing to some homeless people the best I can. I protest for equal rights for men and women. I have led trans and gay protests. I clean up recycle reuse and reduce. Plus I only use heat and cooling shi- when I absolutely need to. my house is one of the most environmental houses out there. So do not say I do not do stuff for the earth. I do more than most people. Also, the earth is formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. As for humans, our evolution took place as new genetic variations in early ancestor populations favored new abilities to adapt to environmental change and so altered the human way of life. So before you start questioning someone get your god damn facts straight @gcc8617

gcc8617 · Answer

@oliver69 wrote:

First of all, I am making this world a better place. I volunteer at animal shelters, I foster animals and children. I provide food, and clothing to some homeless people the best I can. I protest for equal rights for men and women. I have led trans and gay protests. I clean up recycle reuse and reduce. Plus I only use heat and cooling shi- when I absolutely need to. my house is one of the most environmental houses out there. So do not say I do not do stuff for the earth. I do more than most people. Also, the earth is formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. As for humans, our evolution took place as new genetic variations in early ancestor populations favored new abilities to adapt to environmental change and so altered the human way of life. So before you start questioning someone get your god damn facts straight @gcc8617

OOKAY GOOD KEEP RECYLIN ND STUFF BUT THE PAT ABT DUST IS A LIE U MUST BE QA ATHEIST THTS WAT ITS GIVIN

rocfp · Answer

@gcc8617 wrote:

@oliver69 wrote:

First of all, I am making this world a better place. I volunteer at animal shelters, I foster animals and children. I provide food, and clothing to some homeless people the best I can. I protest for equal rights for men and women. I have led trans and gay protests. I clean up recycle reuse and reduce. Plus I only use heat and cooling shi- when I absolutely need to. my house is one of the most environmental houses out there. So do not say I do not do stuff for the earth. I do more than most people. Also, the earth is formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. As for humans, our evolution took place as new genetic variations in early ancestor populations favored new abilities to adapt to environmental change and so altered the human way of life. So before you start questioning someone get your god damn facts straight @gcc8617

OOKAY GOOD KEEP RECYLIN ND STUFF BUT THE PAT ABT DUST IS A LIE U MUST BE QA ATHEIST THTS WAT ITS GIVIN

Honestly , Just drop it .

MEANIEdummy · Answer

Y'all ain't done yet?

rocfp · Answer

Fr like just drop it, this not religion related anymore

Renne · Answer

I am so sorry-...

lilbart · Answer

This again 🤦🏻

Renne · Answer

@lilbart wrote:

This again 🤦🏻

what

gcc8617 · Answer

@lilbart wrote:

This again 🤦🏻

wordd like do they ever stop