How would you plug this function: 3(x square root) , whose upper limit is 10 and lower one is 0, and this one: ^3(x "square root sign) - 1/4(^3(x "square root sign")) into the arc length formula? There derivatives are originially from 2(x^3/2), and 3/4(x^4/3) - 3/8(x^2/3)+7.. @Calculus1
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San?? o_O from where did that came from?
like master saifoo khan san turing test san you know...
like sensei, you know
Ohh!! now i got it.. ^_^ thanks. =)
is this the music you do math to? pretty mellow vibe
Nope, i go for random music. currently this once's on top! =D
LOL.
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alright hold on
is that your pic Turing?
i guess so.
yup that's me
that's you saifoo?
Yes, me and my camera! =D
Nice hairs! :D
Agree^
Heh, I was at a hippie commune in that pic. Only hippie physics major there ;) what ethinicity/nationality are you?
\[y=2x ^{3/2}\] is the given curve where 0 =a and 10=b and \[y = 3/4x ^{4/3}-3/8x ^{2/3}+7\] where 1 is a and 8 is b.
Pakistani. you?
I am an Indian .. and you ?
All American ,but I live in mexico
ok let's do our buddy's problem, now that it's posted correctly
I'm trying to find the arc lengths of both functions, I already found the derivatives, I'm just unsure of how to plug that back into the function.
OH mostly Mexican want to leave in America.. any felony records in states ? :P
ok thanks.
what is a and b ?
integration ?
a stand for the lower limit and b stands for the upper limit.
^^Yes
so this are two separate problems of finding the area?
*these
these are after you've taken the derivative, correct?
yes, that is correct.
\[ \int_0^{10} 2x ^{3/2} dx \]
so why do you have y= and not dy/dx= ???
No actually I was wrong, both functions are before doing the derivative
ok let's take the derivative then...
whatever you are just flustered yourself.....
\[dy/dx=3x^{1/2}\]\[dy/dx=x^{1/3}-{x^{-1/3}\over4}\]are the derivatives then. do we agree?
arc length formula:\[\int\limits_{a}^{b} \sqrt{1+(dy/dx)^2}\]for the first prob\[\int\limits\limits_{0}^{10} \sqrt{1+(3x^{1/2})^2}dx=\int\limits\limits_{0}^{10} \sqrt{1+9x}dx\]can you integrate that yourself?
^ Yes that is what I got, except you have to bring each of the exponents down and square them. For your other question, I got \[\sqrt{91}\]
the above integral\[\int\limits_{0}^{10}(1+9x)dx={2\over27}(1+9x)^{3/2}\]from 0 to 10 is\[{2\over27}(91^{3/2}-1)\]
sorry that should be (1+9x)^(1/2) in the integral.
Yes this is what I got and the decimal approximation to it would be 64.228
Okay, now I think I can figure out the second one. I'll let you know if I have any issues. Thanks alot.
the other becomes\[dy/dx=x^{1/3}-{1\over4}x^{-1/3}\]\[(dy/dx)^2=x^{2/3}+x^{-2/3}-1/2\]so arc length becomes\[\int\limits_{1}^{8}\sqrt{x^{2/3}+x^{-2/3}+{1\over2}}dx=\int\limits_{1}^{8}\sqrt{x^{2/3}+x^{-2/3}+{1\over2}}dx\]or at least that's what I got, but I can't seem to integrate it, so maybe you can help me with this one when you figure it out
alright, I'll look at it later and get back to you.
actually (dy/dx)^2 should be \[x^{2/3}+{1\over16}x^{-2/3}-{1\over2}\]my mistake
so\[\int\limits_{1}^{8}\sqrt{x^{2/3}+{1\over16}x^{-2/3}+{1\over2}}dx\]should be the formula...
I want to factor what's in the radical into (a+b)^2 but that doesn't seem possible...
I think I got it...
\[\int\limits_{1}^{8} \sqrt{x^{2/3}+{1\over2}+{1\over16}x^{-2/3}}dx=\int\limits_{1}^{8} \sqrt{x^{-2/3}(x^{4/3}+{1\over2}x^{2/3}+{1\over16})}dx\]\[=\int\limits_{1}^{8}\sqrt{x^{-2/3}(x^{2/3}+{1\over4})^2}dx=\int\limits_{1}^{8}x^{-1/3}(x^{2/3}+{1\over4})dx\]\[=\int\limits\limits_{1}^{8}x^{1/3}+{1\over4}x^{-1/3}dx={3\over4}x^{4/3}+{3\over8}x^{2/3}\]I'm prettty sure you can evaluate that from 1 to 8 yourself, right?
I got 93/8
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