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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question on second derivatives its attached as a file Question on second derivatives its attached as a file @Mathematics

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Can you find the inflection points? How far can you get with this problem? Please try.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure....hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the second derivative is 8-16sin(2x) and f''(0) is 8 and f''(pi) is also 8

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you are right about the derivative, but knowing f''(0) and f''(8) will not help us find concavity. do you know how to find inflection points?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

f''(pi)*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isnt that where the concavity changes?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

right, and how do we find those points? (hint: the same way we find where a graph is increasing or decreasing using the first derivative, only here we do it with the second derivative)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

give up?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

huuuuhh yes

OpenStudy (turingtest):

we set f''(x)=0 and solve for x those will be our inflection points can you do that now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Inflection points are found when the Finding the F''(x)=0, however i'm not exactly sure what F'' is

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I'll prepare the answer while you work to have it ready in case you get lost. @outkast f''(x)=8-16sin(2x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No i mean't how F' measures change of slope, F'' measures the rate of changing the slope?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

F'(x) measures the slope of the tangent at x F''(x) measures the rate of change of the slope at x (its "concavity")

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does that mean that F''' is the change of the rate of change of the slope XD

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Yes, I guess so. In physics it's called "Jerk", but in math it's just called the third derivative.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[f''(x)=8-16\sin(2x)\]\[\sin(2x)={1\over2}\]\[2x=\sin^{-1}(1/2)=\left\{ {\pi \over6}, {5\pi \over 6}\right\}\]\[x=\left\{ {\pi \over12},{5\pi \over12} \right\}\]so now we have three intervals to check: \[(0,{\pi \over12}) \]\[({\pi \over12},{5\pi \over 12}) \]and \[({5\pi \over 12}, \pi)\]We now need to pick a number N in each interval. If f''(N)<0 in that interval the graph is concave down. If f''(N)>0 in that interval the graph is concave up. Let's pick some a number N from the first interval. Why not try N=pi/24 ? What is the value of f''(pi/24) ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

the questioner appears to have left. how sad...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did you get 2x=sin^-1(1/2)?

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