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OpenStudy (turingtest):

I'm guessing OS will be slow for the holidays... I suppose it's time to review differential equations.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

turingtest do you know predicates and quantifiers?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

no I don't think so do you have that in a DE class?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whats DE?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

differential equations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no just asking

OpenStudy (turingtest):

interesting stuff, I'm reading up on it right now. I knew most of those symbols and terminology, but have never studied it formally.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why do you think it'll get slow?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Most people that have the chance to not do homework usually don't. I don't mean slow in terms of the server, but in terms of student who need to cram for exams

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yes yes........

OpenStudy (anonymous):

differential equations?

OpenStudy (lalaly):

i love differential equations

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Yes, I sort of went through that stuff online a year or so ago, but I need to finish the OCW for multivariable calculus, then that to really have it down.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What are differential equations?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

y'+yx=x^2 and such

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y(x)=y'(x)\] this is a easiest diffrential equations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't understand.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you know derivatives?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

right, the answer is y(x)=e^x+c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm in 8th standard

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, forget it

OpenStudy (turingtest):

ah, definitely need to have a good handle on calculus first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when will I learn about it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what country are you in?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

India

OpenStudy (turingtest):

at least after multivariable calculus, and hopefully after linear algebra. Then you can start on DE s

OpenStudy (turingtest):

DE's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

btw, prof aroroux is awesome for multivariable calculus

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I know, he makes everything seem so simple :)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

no, but it's nice to be able to tie in the idea of a "fundamental solution set" in DE's with a basis for a vector space, they are closely related.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

plus it comes in handy solving systems of DE's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, like particular solution/homogeneous solution

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I'm not sure how that part relates to linear algebra, but I'm sure it does. I am thinking more of how interesting it is to treat solution sets in DE's as vectors, and how they form the basis for the solution space. Pretty cool in my opinion.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, you means system of differential equations

OpenStudy (turingtest):

actually it show up in the solutions to second order DE's, not just systems http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/FundamentalSetsofSolutions.aspx If you look at the solutions closely you'll notice that they are linearly independent vectors that can define a solution space. It ties things together nicely.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

You can see that through the Wronskian...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, I did Wronskian in DE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I found step/delta function and fourier series interesting in DE

OpenStudy (turingtest):

well, if the Wronskian is not zero, then the matrix is of linearly independent vectors, right? Yes those part were my favorite too. I also just like the look of solutions involving Fourier series, they are pretty.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can solve for exact value of pi using fourier series

OpenStudy (turingtest):

really? got a link for that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You definitely need linear algebra for ODEs. Thats all DEs are is linear algebra. Calculus is also a must, when you learn rudimentary methods such as variation of parameters you need to know how to handle (usually complicated) integrations. Especially for systems. Variation of parameters for systems requires quite a bit of knowledge. Integration, matrices, matrix inversion, IVP, and dealing with rather complicated looking functions sometimes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Of course, anyone can get good at programming in matlab and solve them no problem haha

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