whats the general answer of (x^2)y'+3xy=sinx/x ?
What's the solution of \[ x^2 y' + 3x y = 0 \]
I would think about the integrating factor. Then your problem becomes easy.
These questions are fun because they linear differential equations :)
isnt it seperably?
The equation James wrote is.
Integrating factor
But the equation you wrote is not.
Do you want me to show you the general way to solve these types if it is okay with James?
yes.
sure
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Ok so we have something that can be written in this form: \[y'+p(x)y=q(x)\] Now if we multiply both sides by v>0 such that v'=vp since product rule is vy'+v'y=(vy)' \[vy'+vpy=vq\] So vp=v' so this means we have \[vy'+v'y=vq => (vy)'=vq\] Now we can integrate both sides: \[vy=\int\limits_{}^{}vq dx +C\] And solve for y \[y=\frac{1}{v} \int\limits_{}^{}vq dx +C\] But what is v? Recall v'=vp We can solve this for v by using separation of variables v'=dv/dx by the way and p is a function of x \[\frac{dv}{dx}=vp => \frac{dv}{v}=p dx => \ln(v)=\int\limits_{}^{}p dx+c => v=e^{\int\limits_{}^{} p dx+c} \text{ note take c=0}\] \[ => v=e^{\int\limits_{}^{}p dx} \text{ this is call the integrating factor} \]
mistake
\[y=\frac{1}{v} \int\limits\limits_{}^{}vq dx +\frac{C}{v}\]
i forgot to divide the constant by v above
for particular solution to this one, you might be to do variation of parameter
Do you have any questions put into this form y'+py=q and then find what we called the integrating factor and if you want you can use that formula I have for finding y
im trying to solve it but im confused
it takes a little time for me ^.^
I understand work takes time
see im try but it seems im really dumb first i divide both side by x^2 and get y' + 3y/x = sinx/x^3 second i integrating factor is e^(integral of p) (and p is equal to 3/x right?) and i get e^3lnx equation now looks like y'(e^3lnx) + (e^3lnx)*3y/x = (e^3lnx)*sinx/x^3 what should i do with this 1. its bigger than its initial form /cry
or x^3 right?
e^(3lnx)=e^(lnx^3)=x^3
\[x^3y'+x^3 \cdot \frac{3}{x}y=\sin(x)\] \[x^3y'+3x^2y=\sin(x)\] remember product rule \[(x^3y)'=\sin(x)\]
can you get it form there just integrate both sides now
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lol sorry
its ok
so in the end answer is (c-cosx)/x^3 but im having trouble in typing in this form because my mainboard is in rma.(my current system is amd 3500+ /cry). thnx for help.
8 hours till TEST
lets check I'm going to integrate the last equation I wrote. \[x^3y=-\cos(x)+C\] yes thats right! :) gj
i don't know what all that other you are talking about is sorry
some kind of computer talk i believe i guess
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