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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Does a/o know linear algebra?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is a/o?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyone

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okies

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm what class of algebra are you in or what are you learning right now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Did u see the file i attached?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just learnt solving linear systems and a bit of matrices involving elementary operations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do u know linear algebra? What grade r u in?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol i forgot most of this stuff

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you learn cramers rule yet or determinants?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhh well basically they gave the answer but like i can't figure out how they did it. No i didnt learn that yet. Still in the way begginning. Only in chapter 1. Skewl started like 2 days ago

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they subsituted the x values and then there was a system of linear equations and somehow they got the answer what e/t equaled

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whtvr i am blabbing too much

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lemme see ill try ok ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hehe

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k thanks :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you want to graph this thing right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

um well that wld be afterwards i really want to understand how they got the equation. Once i have the equation it is simple to graph

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what happened?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in the end you want to graph it though so the matrix you have is a 3x3 1 | a b c | 2 | a b c | 3 | a b c |

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im not done

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL i am still here don't worry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you ssaid beginning class right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya lol just started like on monday

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you use combination? i didnt try it yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see that you have a solution to the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is combination

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what do you want again?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol ya i just dont know how they got the answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o ok ill tell you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry abt that i thought i had told that i just wanted the steps

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they just substituted

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorrrrry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol np i just didnt understand the question my fault also anyways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you know how to put a quadratic equation in standard form?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like vertex form?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no just the equation in standard form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

show me an example

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you know this format ax^2 + by +c = 0 standard for for the quadratic equation ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but they used diff format

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you notice any thing in any of the problems similar to this ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Whoa whoa hang on. Are you trying to figure out how to solve the system of equations, or how they came up with the system of equations? Or both?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol maybe both

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

basically how to solve the system

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how they came up with the solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like i know the equation of a polynomial

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try to see if there is a likeness to the standard form of ax^2 + by+c = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright. There are a large number of ways by which you could get the solution to some arbitrary system of equations. Given that you say this is your first experience with linear algebra and class started two days ago, I assume that you should be doing this either by adding or subtracting the equations from each other or by row-reducing a matrix. Which would you like me to go over?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont think they solved it like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i prefer row reducing matrix

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you dont need that yet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

at least not for this problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but for practice in the future its good to start early

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do u mean how shld u solve it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

many ways you just dont need to put so much effort in to it if you just use my way :P all i know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. I assume then that you can represent the problem as the following matrix equation: \[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 1 & 1 \\ 1 & 2 & 4 \\ 1 & 3 & 9\end{matrix}\right] \left(\begin{matrix} a_0 \\ a_1 \\ a_2 \end{matrix}\right)= \left(\begin{matrix}4 \\ 0 \\ 12\end{matrix}\right)\] Reasonable assumption?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya but like i only know elementary operations so nothing too fancy over there ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its good to take notes for future references though :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

true ;D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sure. So what you want to do is tack the column on the right hand side of the equals sign on to the matrix, like this: \[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 1 & 1 & | & 4 \\ 1 & 2 & 4 & | & 0 \\ 1 & 3 & 9 & | & 12\end{matrix}\right]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ill just type my my effort less way and call it quits

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks mth3v4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now, you want to add and subtract rows from each other so you get the identity matrix on the left. For example, if you subtract the first row from the second row and the third row, you get the following matrix: \[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 1 & 1 & |& 4 \\ 0 & 1 & 3 & | & -4 \\ 0 & 2 & 8 & | & 8\end{matrix}\right]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok ya i get that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Next, I'd subtract 2 x the second row from the third row, and get this: \[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 1 & 1 & | & 4 \\ 0 & 1 & 3 & | & -4 \\ 0 & 0 & 2 & | & 16\end{matrix}\right]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nm that im getting yelled at :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gn peoples

OpenStudy (anonymous):

who is yelling at you :((((

OpenStudy (anonymous):

parents :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gn gn

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good night thanks for ur help :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Dividing the third row by two yields\[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 1 & 1 & | & 4\\ 0 & 1 & 3 & | & -4 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 & | & 8\end{matrix}\right]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya still following HEHE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Almost done. Lets subtract the second row from the first row: \[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 0 & -2 & | & 8\\ 0 & 1 & 3 & | & -4 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 & | & 8\end{matrix}\right]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh we have two more steps to go

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And then add 2x the third to the first: \[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 0 & 0 & | & 24\\ 0 & 1 & 3 & | & -4 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 & | & 8\end{matrix}\right]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And finally, subtract 3x the third from the second to yield \[\left[\begin{matrix}1 & 0 & 0 & | &24\\ 0 & 1 & 0 & | & -28 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 & | & 8\end{matrix}\right] \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooh YAY tralalaaa

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Behold the solution via row reduction :) There are quite a number of ways to solve such systems but this is a good first start and something you can always fall back on if the others get too complicated.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is what they got

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya this is theonly way we learnt so far

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks u r a savior :DDDDD XD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Seriously u were really clear

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No problem, good luck. I love linear algebra, it's one of my favorite subjects, so I hope it treats you well :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so far i am actually really liking it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am embarrassed to say that i am even liking it better than calc 2

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