i need someone to walk me step by step on a Pythagorean theorem i am having trouble with it and just a little bit of extra help
Zed
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sure, just reading the file
ok
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man that is confusing. pick two numbers, m and n, one even one odd. lets say i pick m = 4, n 1 then take \[m^2-n^2=4^2-1^2=15\] also \[2mn=2\times 4\times 1=8\] and finally \[m^2+n^2=4^2+1^2=17\] those three number, \[15,8,17\] will be a pythagorean triple. that is \[15^2+8^2=17^2\]
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ok, but right now i am puzzling over how to make truth tables interesting because they are boring me to death. if you have any good puzzles or exercises involving them, let me know.
@tinkerbell, i wrote out a method for finding triples for you above. the worksheet you sent is rather vague (method on line) etc
i have been down ill with the flu really bad
i can walk you through another one if you like
tinkerbell do you need to use different methods each time?
It can be proved as the 2 dimensional case of the Parseval equality I think! Functional Analysis is goood. If not, then just remember this: The square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares on the other two sides!
this is the only one i see , a^2+b^2 = c^2.
maybe it is not clear what you are looking for. not any three numbers a, b and c, but three whole numbers a, b and c with \[a^2+b^2=c^2\]
thats what i see
did you open the link on the worksheet?
my assignment
this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formulas_for_generating_Pythagorean_triples
that confused me
i see. it looks like your worksheet is asking for 5 different triples. i wrote one above. would you like to do another one?
can you rewrite it and explain as you go
ok we can try the first one If a is odd, then b = a2/2 − 1/2 and c = b + 1 If a is even, then b = a2/4 − 1 and c = b + 2 pick an odd number
7
ok then to find "b" we compute \[b=\frac{7^2}{2}-\frac{1}{2}\] what do you get?
there any other way we can do this with out fractions
will 7^2 =49 so it would be 49/2-1/2
this is a fraction but don't fret \[\frac{7^2}{2}-\frac{1}{2}=\frac{49-1}{2}=\frac{48}{2}=24\]
a nice whole number so \[a=7,b=24\] and now \[c=b+1=24+1=25\] and that is your "triple" \[7,24,25\]
and you are supposed to check that \[7^2+24^2=25^2\] which you can do with a calculator
slow down
let me know if you have any questions about what i wrote
no i have no questions so far let me type it into the template real qick
ok that gives me 625
good so we have one. now we can try another one
yes please
Ready when you are
ok now we try a different method
pick two numbers m and n, where one is even and one is odd. make them not too big
88 and 13
whoa nice and small!
you did not say that
we want to make this easy, not hard. pick small numbers
11 and 17
ok i will pick them, one even and the other odd. i pick 5 and 2 now we compute \[5^2-2^2=25-4=21\]
then i take \[2\times 5\times 2=20\] and finally \[5^2+2^2=25+4=29\] and the three numbers \[21,20,29\] are also a triple and you can check that \[21^2+20^2=29^2\]
ok
now we have two. do you have to use a different method for each one?
yes i would like if it is possible
i will le let you know when im done entering it in the template
well maybe we can do one more, but if i were you i would use the last method again with two different numbers
ok hang on im 3^2-8^2=9-64=55
am i right so far
you are on the right track, but you should make it \[8^2-3^2=64-9=55\] so you don't get negative numbers
so you picked 8 and 3,and now you have 55 next two numbers will be \[2\times 8\times 3\] and \[8^2+3^2\]
2x 8x 3=48
8^2 + 3^2 is to check right
no that is the third number, the long side
73
the three numbers are \[55,48,73\] and the check is \[55^2+48^2=73^2\]
ok be right with you
unfortunately i have to run. but you have 3 so far, and it looks like you know what you are doing, so i think you should be in good shape
i just have to rememer to put the bigger number in front
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