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OpenStudy (s3a):

Question about equation of plane, parametric equations and stuff like that: http://f.imgtmp.com/HIhr6.jpg Help would be GREATLY appreciated!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

personally id create 2 vectors and cross them for the normal vector

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can you type up the points for me, its hard to keep track of them

OpenStudy (s3a):

that's to get the first part?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, plane equation

OpenStudy (s3a):

P(-4,-6,2) and Q(-8,-7,0), R(7,3,5)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good, now what im gonna do is define 2 vectors by subtracting one point from the other 2

OpenStudy (s3a):

wait, first let me finish part 1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Q(-8,-7,0) R( 7, 3, 5) - P(-4,-6,2) - P(-4,-6,2) ------------------------- -<4, 1, 2> <11,9,3> these are 2 vectors that reside on your plane between your points

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets cross them for a normal vector <4, 1, 2> <11,9,3> ---------- x = (3-18) = -15 y = -(12-22) = 10 z = (36-11) = 25 <-15,10,25> is the normal vector which we can scale down to work with -------- -5 <3,-2,-5> looks good to me

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now, given any point on the plane; they gave you 3 to play with; we can construct the equation as such: 3(x-Px)-2(y-Py)-5(z-Pz)=0

OpenStudy (s3a):

2 secs, i was searching for something. now i can read properly.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

id use a simple point like (-8,-7,0) 3(x--8)-2(y--7)-5(z-0)=0 3x+24-2y-14-5z=0 3x-2y-5z+10=0 if i did it right that should be a match to your 3 points

OpenStudy (s3a):

ok so <3,-2,-5> is the normal vector and 3(x-Px)-2(y-Py)-5(z-Pz)=0 is from dot producting it?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in effect yes.

OpenStudy (s3a):

ya i get that part now thank you. :)

OpenStudy (s3a):

what about the line?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

gotta dbl chk my plane equation first, im prone to error at my age :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

wolfram likes it :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so line PQ ... let me see

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its a vector addition of P and Q right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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OpenStudy (amistre64):

vector subtraction that is and the points themselvs act as defining the vectors

OpenStudy (s3a):

i just pictured like a toddler helping me on the other side :P

OpenStudy (s3a):

and sorry technical issues make it hard to respond fast here

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so, P-Q, i did above = <4,1,2> and this needs to be scaled to any length to create the line t<4,1,2> now all we have to do is attach it to either P or Q

OpenStudy (s3a):

i'm guessing your older rather than younger

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the best thing about today is that im one step closer to death :)

OpenStudy (s3a):

there is a comma between P and Q if that matters.

OpenStudy (s3a):

lol ... well eat healthy, etc

OpenStudy (amistre64):

using -8,-7,0 to anchor our line vector to we get: x = -8 + 4t y = -7 + 1t z = 0 + 2t should be the parametric stuff

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if you plug in P for the x y z parts you should come out to t being the same for all parametrics

OpenStudy (amistre64):

P=-4,-6,2 -4 = -8 +4t 4 = 4t t = 1 -7+1 = -6 0+2 = 2... that works for me :)

OpenStudy (s3a):

ok so you used Q to anchor and P works too. just confirmed.

OpenStudy (s3a):

sorry for being delayed.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

'sok, this computers getting slow as well

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now the next one is perp to L and hits R

OpenStudy (s3a):

wait before that.

OpenStudy (s3a):

i didn't get what you did when you found a value for t and why you did it.

OpenStudy (s3a):

also, i don't recommend you use CRT. rather use LCD screens because they don't harm your eyes or are negligible in comparison. plasmas make radiation that dissipates before harming you so it's acceptable but i'd go with lcd anyways.

OpenStudy (s3a):

just saying.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since im anchored to Q and it has to go thru P then some value of "t" has to remain the same for each parametric in order to come up with the P values. I solved for Px in place of x to see if we can get a t that worked

OpenStudy (amistre64):

when t=1 we get Px so i just subbed in t=1 for the others to see if they matched Py and Pz

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if we anchored to P, then we would have used Q to test it out with :)

OpenStudy (s3a):

i see it now :D

OpenStudy (s3a):

so what about the last part?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the last part I believe uses this line vector as a normal vector of this other plane; and this other plane has to hit R so we should just place Rx Ry Rz in the plane equation

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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OpenStudy (s3a):

passing through means parallel but more precise?

OpenStudy (s3a):

i mean covering it wholly

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sooo, n<4,1,2>, calibrate with R(x,y,z) 4(x-Rx)+1(y-Ry)+2(z-Rz)=0 expanded of course

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we want a plane perp to L, not parallel

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