estimate instantaneous rate of change at the point x=5 for f(x)=lnx
the derivative of lnx at x=5
1/5 maybe?
That is not what it is asking. Im supposed to use the average velocity formula to figure it out and its not working
the average velocity is for an average rate of change; your spose to be using the limit of that formula as h goes to 0 or some other denominator
I know that but we havent gotten that far. We are only using rates of change.
instantaneous velocity is the derivatie; which can be defined as:\[\lim_{h->0}\frac{ln(x+h)-ln(x)}{h }\]
then use the avg stuff with small changes
ln(5)-ln(5.0001)/.0001
or something akin to it
the way the book and cramster teaches it is way different. im supposed to use numbers a little more and a little less than five
like 4.9 and 5.01
teh smaller the change, the more exact the estimate
(5)^3 +5-((4.9)^3 +4.9)/ 5-4.9
well it asks for estimates and all the ones I give are wrong
cubed stuff?
you said lnx
I end up with 68.75, 73.04,74.51,75.85
I dont know man. Ive been beating my head against the wall for the last two hours and the book is nigh on useless
ln(5.00001/5)/.00001 = .2000...... approx 1/5 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ln%285.00001%2F5%29%2F.00001
it says that the instantaneous rate of change is estimated by computing the average rate of smaller intervals
thats what i did
well what am I doing then? because im lost. I dont understand how to set up the problem.
ln(5.00001) is a small change from ln(5) right?
in fact is .00001 small of a change
ok i follow that. but what then? how do I set up the problem to solve it? so its [5, 5.001]?
yes
or 4.99999 to 5 but its easier to see the change when it grows a little bigger
how do i plug it in? i see a formula for average rate of change, but it doesnt give one for instantaneous
im not sure what it is youre looking at ....
if its about inputing into a program, i got no idea what it wants then
the instantaneous rate of change at ln(5) = 1/5 = .2
so how you got those other vlaues I cant say
im sorry. the book does a very crappy job of explaining things
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