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OpenStudy (anonymous):

The derivation of the equation of adiabatics process: deltaQ=deltaU+W, deltaQ=0, deltaU+W=0, deltaU=-W, nC(v,m)(deltaT)=-p(delta V). Problem: why the work done=p(delta V) since the pressure of the gas is not constant?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

while deriving this expression we considered a piston compressed to create a uniform force so pressure was constaant as pressure=force/area area being the same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but if the pressure is not constant?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why shouldnt it be constant?...it is only under constant pressure that the relation of thermodynamic law 1 is derived |dw:1329492230357:dw| remember when pressure is different then at say same volume then qv=delta u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But how to look at the pressure... For example, if in a adiabatic process. The Pressure is not constant right? But it uses its internal energy to do the workdone.... so, if we just calculate the work done... pdV... we assume the p is constant... wont that be contradicted?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

while using 1 thermodynamic equation, we have assumed pressure to constant adiabation means no energy enters or leaves the system meaning delta q=0 so w=delta u which means with change in internal energy u the delta v (volume)changes p*deltav=delta u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

trying to understand

OpenStudy (jamesj):

But in general, you're right. Pressure is a function of volume, P = P(V). That is why in the general case, we define the work not to be just \[ P \Delta V \] but as the sum over the change in volume: \[ Work = \int_{P_A}^{P_B} P \ dV \]

OpenStudy (jamesj):

*limits should be V_A to V_B

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OK. confused

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here also we assume pressure as constant as it is defined already while proving this concept

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm , thanks salini.

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