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OpenStudy (anonymous):

s(t)=-4.9+vt+s To estimate the height of a building, a stone is dropped from the top of the building into a pool of water at ground level. How high is the building if the splash is seen 5.6 seconds after the stone is dropped?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

s(t)=-4.9t+vt+s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm are you aloud to use derivatives?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

missed a t >.<

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4.9t^2 I think you mean :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4.9t^2 +vt+s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and yes i can use derivatives

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im just not sure how to use the information given

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im so confused right now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this rate of change thing is going to do me in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm so vo and so are both unknown?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes but i am assuming s0 would = 0 at 5.6 seconds

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since thats impact

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah thats right the vo is just the pain in the a part of the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait wait wait, it seems to be lacking the classic physics wording of it was dropped with an unknown intial velocity, it being dropped and not thrown I would maybe go as far to say the the intial velocity is 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that seems like it might be too easy though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we dont drop things with an intial velocity though lol, thats against the definition of dropping lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am so lost on any problems dealing with rate of change

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I may have to drop this course if I do not pick these up soon :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4.9(5.6^2) should be your answer assuming that dropping means letting go from rest

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am having a hard time telling where the information they give me plugs in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Say they give me a distance of 108 meters, I assume thats s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if they give me a velocity that v0t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and a measurement of time = t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if they give me t and vot

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i find the derivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and solve for the value of t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but when they give me t and s im lost lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

s(t)= -4.9t^2+v0t+108?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and when they only give me t i am more than lost

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no that more like my next problem, but if i were given that question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here ill read type you a problem from my book and try to help clarify things

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i do not know what to do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

read-type*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hokay so, A person standing at the edge of a cliff throws a rock directly upward. it is observed that 2 seconds later the rock is at its maximum height and that 5 seconds after that, it hits the ground at the base of the cliff?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

questions like that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have no idea how to solve that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But they are questions like that correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll show you how to appoarch it if it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(this is straight from my change of rate section)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmmm on my original question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

s(t)=-4.9+vt+s v(t)=s'(t)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops 4.9t^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so -9.8t+v would be the derivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-9.8(5.6)+v=0 v= 54.88

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would that be the velocity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats your impact velocity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so when s=0 Velocity = 54.88?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

assuming that v0=0 yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now i confused myself lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha remember the derivative of the distance equation is the velocity at time equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4.9t^2 +vt+s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well if s=distance

OpenStudy (anonymous):

at 5.6 secs s=0 since thats impact right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait nno no s0 is not o

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here label the equation like this it makes it more clear. So 4.9t^2+v0t+s0= s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so at time t=5.6s s would be 0 not s0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

other wise you would get a negative height, it really doesnt matter which way you do it but you should do it right when you are first doing it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hehe

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well i am trying to understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm sorry I really havent been too much help but that question is horribly worded. If I were in your shoes I would assume that the initial velocity is 0 as progress from there. As long as you understand the relationships between the equations, it will make solving these very simple. Drawing whats going on helps

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4.9t^2+vt+s 9.8t+v is the derivative correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes sir

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with that i can get the velocity at impact

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-9.8(5.6)+v=0 v= 54.88

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes but you need to know what v initial is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well wouldnt that be as simple as making t 0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dont think you can do that because you are stating that v(5.6)=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its hard to explain

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea i see lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Try reposting this in the physics section, they are really good at explain this kind of stuff

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://www.blurtit.com/q3330030.html

OpenStudy (anonymous):

will do thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was right :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the initial velocity is 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry I was trying to be ambiguous I didnt want to give you improper information

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am in your same level class lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just do about 6 hours of hw a day

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i took too many courses

OpenStudy (anonymous):

falling behind

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah it blows I have no social life atm just study study

OpenStudy (anonymous):

com 101 is more time consuming than i thought

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:( yeah thats the draw back of underestimating courses. I'm taking physics, chem, physics lab, calc and I really thought this semester would be a tad less stressful

OpenStudy (anonymous):

chem, com 101, calc and us history

OpenStudy (anonymous):

history and chem is ok, but com 101 is taking way to much of my time

OpenStudy (anonymous):

us history=gun to my head i finished all of my gen ed first so I could figure out what I wanna do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

taking way to much time writing and preparing for speeches

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thats why I stick to courses that strictly deal with numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol its a req for my degree or i would never touch it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:( I just wanna take comparitive virology already, all of these courses building up to it are just BS

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