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OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://www.ms.uky.edu/~ma123/ go to old exams, then exam 2 (latest one), and then problem 9

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually problem 10.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what rule is used there? product?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@saifoo.khan @amistre64 @satellite73

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

You did the ranking wrong. i should be the third one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

WHere can i find the questions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the link

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Topic?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its derivative stuff

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Where should i go? MA 123 Home Schedule Policies Sections Lecture Notes Web Homework Written Projects Homework Due Dates Recitation Worksheets WHS Instructions Exams Alternate Exam Information Old Exams Tutoring The Study Mathskeller

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm i made it clear above

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

i still can't get where to go. lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Old Exams Exam 2 or Answer Key below it (which gives problems & answers) Then problem 10

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Now that's what i was talking about.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

The answer's C.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Wanna know why? let me send u a link

OpenStudy (anonymous):

10 is D

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

http://ge.tt/1XHRScE/v/2?c

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

10 is C.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

look at the answer key

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Sorry! now i get the reason. $hit man! they used Product rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about 11? what are the steps there answers A btw

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

http://ge.tt/1XHRScE/v/2?c

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

It's mental problem man!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i understand how they got what they got. what rule is used? i see that they took the derivative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u sure? why is it a fraction then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Let me show u the working. YOu are just confusing yourself bro.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol i am

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i also need 12 clarified as well

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Question>?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

11and12

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Oh, Question 11 dosnt need any working. it's simple.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Look, inside ln we had, 5x^2 +3x +7 Now what we have to do is, write the inside thing as it is in the denominator. And in the numerator, find the derivative of the inside thing.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

something like, \[\frac{\text{derivative of anything inside \ln}}{\text{anything inside \ln}}\]

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

getting something?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for the 12, the product rule was used right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@myininaya @JamesJ @KingGeorge You guys wanna join in? Only Saifoo has been helping me out. I'm trying to understand this stuff so I can do well on my test.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

For 12 it is the product rule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about 13?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

13 * 10 =130

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

13 would be the chain rule. And I'm getting 130 as well.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i have the answers. im just curious how they got each one.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

It might help you to write \(t^2+1\) as yet another function \(y(t)\). Then you know that \(v(t)=w(y(t))\). So using the chain rule, you know that \(v'(t)=w\;'(y(t))y\;'(t)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see it now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/(x^3) flipped is 3/x?

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

For, 14, use the chain rule again. Since you also have the \(x^3\) function, you need to multiply by the derivative of \(x^3\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i was using the rule: (ln(x))' = 1/x

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

First you need to use that, but you also need to use the chain rule like above. It also might help to rewrite the function as \(f(x)=g(h(x))\) where \(g(x)=\ln(x)\) and \(h(x)=x^3\). Then it should look very similar to number 13

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you plug it all in so i can see what you mean?

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

\[f'(x) = g'(h(x))h'(x) \Rightarrow f'(x) = {1\over {x^3}} \cdot 3x^2 ={3\over x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah i see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why is 16 E?

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Because the very minimum of the function is at the point (2, 17). Since it's has an absolute value, that part of the function is always greater than or equal to 0. Then you have a +17, so the function is always greater than or equal to 17.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o ok. thats a good explanation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why would 18 be C? i was thinking it would be D.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

You can tell pretty quickly that it shouldn't be D or E because the exponent of \(e\) is positive. Since it's positive, \(5000e^{40}\) or \(5000e^{.40}\)are both greater than 5000. Since you have to gain money before you get to 5000, neither of those can be the correct answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im used to doing problems like this differently... 5000=P(e^8.0(5))

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

As for actually showing it's C, you want to solve for \(P_0\) in the following equation \[5000=P_0 e^{.08*5}=P_0e^{0.40}\]You can tell pretty easily that \[P_0 = ke^{-0.40}\]for some \(k\) since you need to get rid of the exponent. Thus, you know that \[5000=ke^{0.40} e^{-0.40}=ke^0=k\]Thus, \[P_0=5000e^{-0.40}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im a little confused by that explanation

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Is there a specific part of it you're confused by?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can tell pretty easily that P0=ke−0.40 for some k since you need to get rid of the exponent. Thus, you know that 5000=ke0.40e−0.40=ke0=k Thus, P0=5000e−0.40

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

So you can see why we're solving for \(P_0\) in \[5000=P_0 e^{0.40}\]then correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since i cant give you any more medals here, i decided to give you some where you helped others. haha but anyways, continue...

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

First thing to notice is that 5000 is an integer, while \(e^{0.40}\) is not. Thus, if you multiply \(P_0 e^{0.40}\) you have to get an integer. The best way to do this is let\[P_0=ke^x\]so that\[ke^x e^{0.40}=ke^{x+0.40}\]is an integer. By the properties of exponents, if you let \(x+0.40 =0\), then you have an integer. Solving for this, you get \(x=-0.40\) Thanks for the medals :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i still dont really understand this one but its ok... can you explain 20 to me? i have no clue about that one.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I think it's easier than you're making it out to be. Since you have addition, it pretty straightforward. First, write out what \(h'(x)\) is. Namely, \[h'(x)=f'(x)+g'(x)\]Also, you're given above that the tangent lines at \(x=4\) are \[f'(4)=6x-4\]\[g'(4)=2x-2\]So the slopes of these at 6, and 2, respectively. Thus, \(6+2=8\) is \(h'(4)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you took the derivative of each and added them?

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Basically. I probably shouldn't have used \(f'(4)\) and \(g'(4)\), but they shouldn't have used \(x\) in the equation either since it's a different variable. But anyways, it says that the tangent line at \(x=4\) is given by those equations. You can easily tell that the slope of those lines is 6 and 2 by taking the derivatives. Since it's a straight line, you know that that is also the slope of \(f(x),\; g(x)\) at \(x=4\). Then you just need to add them together to solve for \(h'(4)\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think that is about it for now. thanks for being patient and helping me out!

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

You're welcome.

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