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OpenStudy (anonymous):

difficult integration question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

th;dr

OpenStudy (kymber):

OpenStudy (turingtest):

is this all about even-odd stuff maybe?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

but these integrals are undefined at the boundary points, so... hm...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

oh wait, no they're not

OpenStudy (zarkon):

no..this is actually really trivial

OpenStudy (turingtest):

of course... -.- for you

OpenStudy (zarkon):

a simple subtitituon will give you the first part adding the two integrals ( the one with plus and the one with minus...will give the second part)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here is the full question if you're interested

OpenStudy (experimentx):

first seems true .. since cos is an even function, and sin is an odd function ... behaviour will be symmetric at 0

OpenStudy (experimentx):

maybe redefining function or changing limits might give the first part

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yeah but how do you write it? Zarkon says simple sub, but \(\theta=-\theta\) changes the bounds

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you and I were thinking the same again ;)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

TT that is what you want to do

OpenStudy (zarkon):

dont use the same variable though..call it something different

OpenStudy (turingtest):

huh, but it seems like I get the bounds reversed... I can't think it though clearly enough\[\phi=-\theta\]so the bounds change, does that not matter?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

then use \[\int\limits_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=-\int\limits_{b}^{a}f(x)dx\]

OpenStudy (experimentx):

i guess yes .... so does dQ which which will give the positive value

OpenStudy (turingtest):

but that would be \(-I\)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

no

OpenStudy (experimentx):

rechanging our bounds results - and dQ yields - so +

OpenStudy (turingtest):

aw duh!!! I told you I wasn't thinking it through clearly enough XD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can anybody help me with the rest of the question? (I attached it earlier)

OpenStudy (experimentx):

the second problem is quite easy ... it seeems

OpenStudy (experimentx):

just add up two those different terms

OpenStudy (experimentx):

i would like to do it here ... but very poor at latex

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I mean part (ii) and (iii) and (iv) not the second problem in (i)

OpenStudy (experimentx):

int fa + inf ga = int (fa+ga)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(ii) Find J.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

set suppose tanQ = x, it should solve the question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but the boundaries would be invalid with tan(pi/2) and tan(-pi/2) since cos would be zero

OpenStudy (experimentx):

it's on denominator .. which means function approaches 0 at those boundary

OpenStudy (experimentx):

supposing tanQ = x also eliminates, SecQ^2 dQ on denominator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i'm pretty sure it would be infinite if the denominator approaches zero lo

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i know that, but i'm talking about the boundaries

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they are pi/2 and -pi/2 so how do i evaluate them for my substitution?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tan(pi/2) is infinite

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't understand whyy you are putting it like that. Aren't we using the sub u = tan(theta) so u = tan(pi/2) ?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

still why not give a try ... int 1/(1+x^2a)dx

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[u=\tan(\theta)\] works you get \[\frac{\pi}{\sqrt{\cos^2(2\alpha)}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Zarkon: I don't understand how I use \[u = \tan(\theta)\] when the limits are pi/2 and -pi/2 \[\tan(\pi/2) = \infty\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you get new lmits from \(-\infty\) to \(\infty\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, thanks. I've never seen infinite limits before, so after resolving the integral do I just use the limit of the function as the variable approaches infinite?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

basically yeah, it's called an improper integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cheers

OpenStudy (turingtest):

just so you know all the technicalities, here's how the whole idea works rather well-explained: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/ImproperIntegrals.aspx

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