Find the maximum and minimum values of the function on the given interval. y = x^2 – 2x – 7, [-2, 0]
Find y' have you?
And actually we don't need calculus for this one
This is a parabola you can put this in vertex form
to determine the vertex which will be a min
since the parabola is concave up
But we do have endpoints
so we need to see if the x-coordinate of the vertex is btw -2 and 0
Which way do you prefer? Cal or Algebra?
actually am doing a calculus based course,so i would like to know it in calculus :)
SO have you found y'?
that would simply be 2x-2
\[y'=(x^2)'-(2x)'-(7)'=2x-2=2(x-1)\] Now set y'=0
and solve for x
Like this: 2(x-1)=0
But guess what happens?
x=1 is not btw -2 and 0 so we do not care about x=1 We only have to look the endpoints
ok
So evaluate y for x=0 Then evaluate y for x=-2
Which is higher output and which is the lower output?
how do i evaluate?
\[y|_{x=0}=0^2-2(0)-7=-7\] \[y|_{x=-2}=(-2)^2-2(-2)-7=4+4-7=8-7=1\]
See I evaluated y for x=0 and x=-2
Now 1 is higher than -7 So 1 is the max value and -7 is the min value on the interval [-2,0]
if so why do i need to derive the calculus? if i can just substitute into the original function to get the max and the mini?
Because we needed to figure out if we had any critical numbers btw the endpoints
For example if the interval was [0,2] we would have gotten something differently ....
We had x=1 is the critical number 1 is btw 0 and 2 so we have to check both endpoints and the critical number for this one
wat of in cases like this Find the maximum and minimum values of the function on the given interval. y = (3 - x)/(x^2 + 9 x), text( ) text( ) [3, 10]
Find y' Set y'=0 Also find where y' DNE These will give you your critical numbers Make sure you only look at the critical numbers btw 3 and 10
u can just go on with ur example,if i learn i can just solve this one i posted and the rest. as u were saying if 1 happens to be with the given intervals,how will i get the max and the mini from there?
\[y'=\frac{-1(x^2+9x)-(3-x)(2x+9)}{(x^2+9x)^2}=\frac{-x^2-9x-(6x+27-2x^2-9x)}{(x^2+9x)^2}\] \[=\frac{-x^2-9x-(-2x^2-3x+27)}{(x^2+9x)^2}\] =\[\frac{-x^2-9x+2x^2+3x-27}{(x^2+9x)^2}=\frac{x^2-6x-27}{(x^2+9x)^2}\] So where is y'=0 and where does y' DNE ?
Oh you want to do the one I was doing lol sorry
y does not exist when x=0
dont worry just go on with this
dis will give me a better understanding
Ok so we had \[y=x^2-2x-7, [0,2]\] So we find y' just like we did before y'=2x-2=2(x-1) Set y'=0 and we get x=1 So 1 is btw the endpoints so we have to check all three of these x-values
\[y|_{x=0}=0^2-2(0)-7=-7\] \[y|_{x=1}=1^2-2(1)-7=1-2-7=1-9=-8\] \[y|_{x=2}=2^2-2(2)-7=-7\] -8 is smallest so -8 is the min value -7 is highest so -7 is the max value on [0,2]
Ok so if we were looking at this new problem you put up
yeah
\[y'=\frac{x^2-6x-27}{(x^2+9x)^2}\]
To find where y'=0 Set top=0 and solve for x \[x^2-6x-27=0 => (x-9)(x+3)=0 \] x=? or x=? ----------------------------- To find where y' DNE Set bottom=0 and solve for x \[(x^2+9x)^2=0 => x^2+9x=0 =>x(x+9)=0\] x=? or x=? -------------------------------
What are the critical numbers?
-9 and 0?
and ...
9 and -3 right?
now we only want to look at the critical numbers on the interval given
So which are those?
why -3?
-3+3=0
You did solve both equations right?
i solved for x(x+9)=0
What about the other equation I had there to solve?
Did you read everything I typed?
oh! now i see the equation,am sorry :)
u can go on
ok so the interval was [3,10] right?
yep
Now which of the critical numbers we found are btw 3 and 10?
9
ok so we need to evaluate y for x=3 evaluate y for x=9 evaluate y for x=10
\[y=\frac{3-x}{x^2+9x}\] \[y|_{x=3}=\frac{3-3}{3^2+9(3)}=0\] \[y|_{x=9}=\frac{3-9}{9^2+9(9)}=\frac{-6}{2(81)}=\frac{-3}{81}\] \[y|_{x=10}=\frac{3-10}{10^2+9(10)}=\frac{-7}{190}\]
Which is the lowest output?
-7/190
so that's my mini right?
-3/81 is smallest so -3/81 is the min value 0 is highest so 0 is the max value
ok,so i can use this procedure to solve the rest?
what do you mean?
like a question like this y = (sqrt(5 + x^2)) - 4 x, [5, 6] i can use ur procedure to determine the max and the mini?
of course y'=0 and y' DNE Use all critical numbers btw the endpoints given and the endpoints and plug them into y see what the lowest output (min value) is and then see what the highest output (max value) is
ok thanks alot for your help :)
By the way when finding values for y' DNE make sure that y exists for those x values
oh ok sure :)
@myininaya i have a problem with the remaining two quesrtions
two?
yeah in this situation,i set my function=0 and got x-2((4+x^2)^1/2)
is my cn just 0 in this case?
I don't understand...Are these the same type of questions as before?
yeah
So what is y?
y = (sqrt(4 + x^2)) - 2 x, [4, 5]
\[y'=\frac{x}{\sqrt{4+x^2}}-2\]Is that what you got for y'?
yeah
the i set it to 0
Yes
\[\frac{x-2\sqrt{4+x^2}}{\sqrt{4+x^2}}=0\]
got x-2(4+x^2)^1/2
yea
\[x-2 \sqrt{4+x^2}=0 \] \[x=2 \sqrt{4+x^2} => x^2=4(4+x^2) \text{ squaring both sides}\]
ok,so my cn will be?
\[x^2=16+4x^2 =. x^2-4x^2=16 => -3x^2=16 => x^2=\frac{16}{-3}\] But this will give us imaginary x So we don't have any x-values that satisfy y'=0 So now look for when y' DNE
But again no such values exist
So last thing to do is just plug in endpoints
which i s [4 and 5] ?
\[y|_{x=4} =\sqrt{4+4^2}-2(4) \] \[y|_{x=5}=\sqrt{4+5^2}-2(5)\]
so that will be my max and mini?
the lowest ouput=min value the highest output=max value
\[y=5e^x-e^{3x}\] ?
yeah exactly {-1,1}
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