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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Determine the point of inflection, p(t)= 20 / (1+3e^-0.02t)
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myininaya (myininaya):
You need to find the 2nd derivative
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yea i need help with that.
myininaya (myininaya):
Ok can you find the first derivative?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
nope.
OpenStudy (amistre64):
just integrate the 2nd dericative to get to the 1st derivative :)
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myininaya (myininaya):
Do you know the quotient rule?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i get confused with the d/dx of the e functions
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes i do
myininaya (myininaya):
\[\frac{d}{dx}(e^{at})=(at)'e^{at}=ae^{at} \text{ where } a \text{ is a constant }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so d/dx of (1+3e^-0.02t) is: -0.02(3e^-0.02t)?
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myininaya (myininaya):
\[p'=\frac{(20)'(1+3e^{-0.02t})-20(1+3e^{-0.02t})'}{(1+3e^{-0.02t})^2}\]
Yes!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so is the first derivative
OpenStudy (anonymous):
0.4(3e^-0.02t)/(1+3e^-0.02t)^2
myininaya (myininaya):
yes
myininaya (myininaya):
Then you can multiply 3 and .4
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay, now can we go thru the second derivative together?,
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1.2e^-0.02t?
myininaya (myininaya):
Again you will need to use quotient rule
myininaya (myininaya):
You will need the chain rule to for the bottom and for the e thing
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i tried, and its not working
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myininaya (myininaya):
\[p''=\frac{(1.2e^{-0.02t})'(1+3e^{-0.02t})^2-(1.2e^{-0.02t})((1+3e^{-0.02t})^2)'}{(1+3e^{-0.02t})^2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
isnt the denominator to the power 4?
myininaya (myininaya):
yes that is a type-o
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
now can we go thru the steps?
myininaya (myininaya):
for the quotient rule?
myininaya (myininaya):
all i did was do [(top)'(bottom)-(top)(bottom)'] /(bottom)^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i meant for this question
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so is it? 0.024e^-0.02t(bottom) - top(2)(1+3e^-0.02t)(1.2e^-0.02t)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oops sorry not 1.2e, i meant 0.06e^...
myininaya (myininaya):
\[(1.2)(-0.02)e^{-0.02t}=(1.2e^{-0.02t})'\]
myininaya (myininaya):
\[2(1+3e^{-0.02t})(0+3(-0.02)e^{-0.02t})=((1+3e^{-0.02t})^2)'\]
myininaya (myininaya):
Just plug in
OpenStudy (anonymous):
this is what i got as my final answer:
(0.024e^-0.02t(1-6(1+3e^-0.02t))/ (1+3e^-0.02t)^3