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OpenStudy (curry):

In how many ways can the letters in the word BUTTERFLY be arranged if the letters are taken 5 at a time

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

9 letters T is twice

Parth (parthkohli):

It'd be 9p5 ----> 9 Permutation 5 \(\Large \color{MidnightBlue}{\Rightarrow {9! \over 4!} }\)

OpenStudy (curry):

i thought it would be (9!/2!)/(9-5)!

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

then divide that by 2!

Parth (parthkohli):

\(\Large \color{MidnightBlue}{\Rightarrow {9 * 8*7*6*5*\cancel{4!} \over \cancel{4!}} }\)

Parth (parthkohli):

The question doesn't mention that @PaxPolaris

OpenStudy (curry):

becausr there are 9 letter and u only choe 5

Parth (parthkohli):

\(\Large \color{MidnightBlue}{\Rightarrow 72 * 42 * 5 }\)

Parth (parthkohli):

@Curry no, in this case, the ORDER matters.

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

wait ... both are wrong the Order of the 2 T's doesn't matter only if T is chosen

Parth (parthkohli):

I meant that if you have to find the ways of arranging, you use ONLY permutations.

OpenStudy (curry):

ye but the reason i divided the 9! by 2! intially is because we have 2 T

OpenStudy (curry):

so am i wrong ao wat is the right anwer and why?

Parth (parthkohli):

I'm getting it as 72 * 210

Parth (parthkohli):

You can't just choose combinations in this case.

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

If both T are chosen:\[\Large _7P_3 \times( _5C_2)\] If 1 T is chosen: \[\Large _7P_4 \times( _5C_1)\] If no T are chosen: \[\Large _7P_5\] add them all up for your answer

Parth (parthkohli):

@PaxPolaris Hey, we're talking about all the letters. We don't have to worry about the T's.

OpenStudy (curry):

but it is however many different combo u can make

Parth (parthkohli):

Yes @Curry , so, you will use PERMUTATIONS.

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

@ParthKohli yes we do: let's look at a simpler problem: how many different way to arrange: ATA ATA TAA AAT that's 3 ... and not 3!

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

this is not simply permutation ... like arranging ABC

Parth (parthkohli):

3p3 \(\Large \color{MidnightBlue}{\Rightarrow {3! \over (3 - 3)! } }\)

Parth (parthkohli):

Oh yes.

Parth (parthkohli):

But, @PaxPolaris this problem is more about the permutations.

OpenStudy (curry):

so wwwhat i the right anwer

Parth (parthkohli):

72 * 210, as I said.

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

yes but because there are repeating letterd you have to use both ... permutaions and combinations

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

no thats too high ...

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

I dealt with having 2T, 1T and 0T seperately and added them up ... \[\Large (_7P_3 \times_5C_2) + 5(_7P_4)+(_7P_5)\]

OpenStudy (paxpolaris):

that gives: \[\huge8820\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

PaxPolaris is correct

Parth (parthkohli):

Oh oh @Zarkon sorry

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