Write each trinomial as a perfect square?
x²+4x+4
x^2 + 4x + 4 x^2 + 2x + 2x + 4 (x^2 + 2x) + (2x + 4) x(x+2) + 2(x+2) (x+2)(x+2) (x+2)^2 So x^2 + 4x + 4 written as a perfect square is (x+2)^2
Well, what about x²-16x+64?
x^2 - 16x + 64 x^2 - 8x - 8x + 64 (x^2-8x)+(-8x+64) x(x-8)-8(x-8) (x-8)(x-8) (x-8)^2 So x^2 - 16x + 64 as a perfect square is (x-8)^2
Each time, I'm breaking up the x term into two equal pieces. Then I'm factoring by grouping.
I'm really slow at learning, and have to go through it like, step by step like i'm 5 years old.. So, if you don't want to do that I won't be offended :b I just can't follow those steps without them being explained because i'm so in the dark on this.
alright, I'll go back to the top and explain what I'm doing. My apologies.
Not your fault. I'm just not that smart, or quick at picking up stuff.
x^2 + 4x + 4 ... Start with the given expression x^2 + 2x + 2x + 4 ... Break up 4x into 2x + 2x (x^2+2x)+(2x+4) ... Group the terms into two groups x(x+2)+(2x+4) ... Factor out x from the first group x(x+2)+2(x+2) ... Factor out 2 from the second group (x+2)(x+2) ... Factor out the GCF x+2 (x+2)^2 ... Condense the factors So x^2 + 4x + 4 written as a perfect square is (x+2)^2
I'm sure you're doing fine, just keep practicing until you get it.
Okay, what do you mean by factor out the x? How do you do that?
are you familiar with the distributive property?
Yes, but i'm just sort of confused. Do you just multiply by x?
well when you use the distributive property, you go from something like 2*(3+5) to 2*3 + 2*5 To factor, we just do it in reverse, so we go from 2*3 + 2*5 to 2*(3+5) Make sense?
So, if the problem was: x²-16x+64 I would go: (x²-4x)(-4x+64)? Then what?
(x²-4x)+(-4x+64), but you're on the right track
oh wait, sry i misread
It should be (x²-8x)+(-8x+64)
I took -16 and cut it in half to get -8. So -16x is -8x-8x
So, then it would be: (x²-8x)+(-8x+64)?
yes
So, then I just multiply the groups by x²?
Now you factor x from x²-8x x²-8x x*x-x*8 x(x-8)
Ugh. I"m so lost.
Then you factor -8 from -8x+64 -8x+64 -8x+(-8)*(-8) -8(x-8) So (x²-8x)+(-8x+64) becomes x(x-8) -8(x-8)
Alright, let's try it like this. How good are you at FOILing?
I'm familiar with the concept. It's like First.Outside.Inside.Last. or something, right?
yes
Let's say we had (x+3)(x+5) multiply First terms: x*x = x^2 multiply Outer terms: x*5 = 5x multiply Inner terms: 3*x = 3x multiply Last terms: 3*5 = 15 Now add up the terms we just got x^2+5x+3x+15 x^2 + 8x + 15 Look familiar?
YES. Oh my goodness. So much easier. :)
lol great, so in that last post, I went from (x+3)(x+5) to x^2+8x+15 In the other posts above this, we're going backwards...so that may explain why it's hard to grasp.
Okay wait, let me see if I got this:
alright
x²-16x+64 It would go: x² x x²= x² x -16x= and x² x 64= right?
ok think of it like this when we factor x²-16x+64, we want to place it in the form (x+a)(x+b)...we basically want the two to be equal. What do you get when you FOIL out (x+a)(x+b)? Let's find out... multiply First terms: x*x = x² multiply Outer terms: x*b = bx multiply Inner terms: a*x = ax multiply Last terms: a*b = ab Now add up the terms x² + bx + ax + ab x² + (a+b)x + ab So x²-16x+64 = (x+a)(x+b) becomes x²-16x+64 = x² + (a+b)x + ab With me so far?
great patience Jim, keep up the good work!
So, it would look like: x²-16x+64= x²?
I just suck at this so bad. You're trying so hard and i'm just not following it at all. I'm so sorry.. /:
You're fine, don't stress over this. Just take things one at a time. You got the FOIL idea down, so go from there.
Okay. So, one step at a time looks like this:
Okay. So then, how do I group them off so I can FOIL them?
wait a sec, you said "one step at a time looks like this:" but it's blank after that...I must be missing something
No, you're not. I was going to FOIL them.. But, they aren't group off into the inner and outer terms so I can't..right?
oh gotcha
When you FOIL, you're going from (x+3)(x+5) = x^2+8x+15 But.... when you factor, you're going in reverse. So you're not really FOILing, but you're using the same basic ideas
Forward (FOIL): (x+3)(x+5) to x^2+8x+15 Backward (Factor): x^2+8x+15 to (x+3)(x+5) See the connection?
Yes, I do. I think i'm having troubles with there being 3 numbers in my equations and only two in the examples you're showing me.
What do you mean as in 3 numbers?
My equations is: x²-16x+64 We've been trying to get me too understand how to factor and solve it but I can't figure it out..
Notice how in (x+3)(x+5) the 3 and 5 add to 8 AND 3 and 5 multiply to 15 So 3+5 = 8 AND 3*5 = 15 This is a shortcut to FOILing something like this
So if I gave you x^2+8x+15 and I asked you to factor, you can use this idea in reverse. You would ask yourself "what two numbers multiply to 15 AND add to 8?" The answer would be "3 and 5" to give you the factorization (x+3)(x+5)
OH.
By golly, I think I get it.
Let me try!
that's great :)
alright
Wait, really quick can you set up the equation using my math problem? x²-16x+64
sure thing
x²-16x+64 factors to something like (x+a)(x+b) where a and b are some numbers (we don't know yet), agreed?
Wait, why don't we know the numbers?
because we're going to find them
say we had x^2+8x+15 and we didn't know its factorization (yet), we would have to find those two numbers right?
Those two numbers would be 3 and 5 though, right?
Em you need to find two numbers that add up to 16 and when the same numbers are multiplied they equal 64
Well you know that because you saw (x+3)(x+5) already...so that's why you know it's 3 and 5. Does that make sense?
There aren't any that add and equal 16 that multiply to get 64.
So basically what I'm getting at is that with x²-16x+64, you don't know those two numbers yet...but you can find them if it can be factored So what two numbers BOTH multiply to 64 AND add to -16?
There is! You can do it. Start simple by thinking of what adds up to 16
UGH. Omfg. I know that -4 x -16 = 64.
Or by what multiples to 64
Besides 4 and 16 what else?
8
so 8 is the first number, the second is ...?
8?
Yes and does 8+8 =16? YES!!!
you got it, so 8 and 8 add to 16 and multiply to 64 We want the 16 to be negative, so flip the sign of both '8's to get -8 and -8 So -8 + (-8) = -16 -8*(-8) = 64
This means that x²-16x+64 factors to (x-8)(x-8)
Making it a perfect square I believe
yes, so you condense the terms to get (x-8)²
(x-8)²= x²-16x+64?
exactly
Sweet jesus. How much would you hate me if I asked if we could do another one to make sure I can do it on my own?
lol I wouldn't hate you at all
But you got all that we went through?
Go ahead bby gurl
Kind of.. I'm still a little foggy.
alright, well you can always scroll up and look over it again...or you can ask to go over a certain part again
Okay. Hold on. I need to find my pencil and get some water. :b
lol this is definitely a marathon (lol jk)
It really is though because I scuk at this stuff. :b
naw, you're doing fine
the next problem is: x²+11x+30.25
and you want this as a perfect square?
Yes.
Ok, another shortcut I should have mentioned earlier is this... Step 1) Take the number in front of the x (without the exponent). This number is 11 Step 2) Cut the number in half. So 11 divided by 2 is 5.5 Step 3) Square 5.5 to get 5.5*5.5 = 30.25 Notice how starting with 11, and following these steps, leads us to 30.25 So this means that x²+11x+30.25 is a perfect square trinomial and it factors to (x+5.5)² I'm not sure why I didn't think of this shortcut before, but the stuff we went over is still really important for factoring in general. So these two ideas are useful (one more than the other depending on what you're factoring)
Okay.. On #7 it says: Convert each quadratic function to vertex form. Give the coordinates of the vertex. y=x²=8x Help omg.
I'm going to use the shortcut I just explained above to factor x²-16x+64 Step 1) Take the number in front of the x (without the exponent). This number is -16. Step 2) Cut this number in half to get -8. Step 3) Square -8 to get 64. So this shows us that x²-16x+64 is a perfect square. So it factors to (x-8)²
y=x²=8x is there a typo here?
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