Find the average rate of change for the following functions on the indicated intervals.
f(x)= xcubed - 2x; (0,4)
just don't understand how to work the problem.Help?
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OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):
HINT: rate of change is it's derivative.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
The average rate of change from 0 to 4 is given by
( f(4) - f(0) )/( 4 - 0 )
OpenStudy (anonymous):
still dont understand
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
saifoo.khan, that's the instantaneous rate of change
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
First find f(4), do you know how to do that?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
don't remember
OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):
Ah, then what's this called? @jim_thompson5910
What's the main difference? Thanks for correcting.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
f(x)= x^3 - 2x
f(4)= (4)^3 - 2*(4) <<--- Evaluate this to find f(4)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but 4 is the y
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
No, 4 is the x
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
f(4) means find f(x) when x = 4
OpenStudy (campbell_st):
For average rate of change... its the gradient of the secant across the interval x = 0 to x = 4
start by finding f(0) and f(4)
then the average rate of change is
\[\frac{f(4) -f(0)}{4 - 0}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay so find the function of 4 and 0?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes
OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):
So this is basically the average? @jim_thompson5910
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
what now?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
So what did you get for f(4)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
40
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Try it again, f(4) is NOT 40
OpenStudy (anonymous):
56
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
it's the the average rate of change as stated at the top of the problem saifoo.khan
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
good, you got it
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so f(4) = 56
what about f(0)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats 0
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
right again
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
think of it as the slope of the line that connects the two points (0,0) and (4,56)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you good at word problems?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
sure, what's the question?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
same directions.
a car travels 360 miles in a period of 180 minutes. find the average velocity of the car in miles per hour over this time period. isn't there a formula for this?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
first convert 180 minutes to hours
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Use the idea that 1 hour = 60 minutes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
3 hours
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
So the car travels 360 miles in 3 hours
The average velocity is then
(Distance)/(Time)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so 120?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes, the car's average velocity is then 120 mi/hr
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thanks so much! i have lots more to do..are you busy?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
no not really, which ones are bugging you the most?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
natural logarithms..just don't remember them
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
A natural log is simply a logarithm, but it has a special base known as 'e'
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
The value of 'e' is roughly e = 2.718...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
5/e^x +1 =1 solve for x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats whats bugging me..i can't simplify it far enough
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[\Large \frac{5}{e^x}+1=1\] or \[\Large \frac{5}{e^x+1}=1\] ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
which one?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the second
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Start by multiplying both sides by e^x+1 to get
\[\Large 5=1(e^x+1)\]
\[\Large 5=e^x+1\]
Is this one of your steps?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
What's next?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
subtract 1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
good
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
to get what?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but then im stuck
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i have 4= e^x
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
ok great so far
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but now what?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
now take the natural log of both sides
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1.39
OpenStudy (anonymous):
e cancels right?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
you got it
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
if the book want's an exact answer, then simply leave it as
x = ln(4)
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
but if it wants an approximate answer, then you would write
x = 1.39
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay..well..it's a summer assignment..i should be okay just as long as i show work
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
i gotcha
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[e ^{2x}+2+e ^{-2x}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
help?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
simplifying this? or solving?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
factoring
OpenStudy (anonymous):
into binomials
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
hmm one sec
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
ah ok I think I see what to do
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[e^{2x}+2+e^{-2x}\]
is the same as
\[e ^{2x}+2+\frac{1}{e^{2x}}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah..just an inverse
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
exactly
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so they cancel?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
or make 1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Not quite
OpenStudy (anonymous):
common denomenator?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Yes, you need to find the LCD
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
then get each term to have that LCD, then combine the fractions
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so it would be e to the 2x underneath and one fraction would have e^2x squared on top
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes, that's the first fraction
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay..now what
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so
\[e ^{2x}+2+\frac{1}{e^{2x}}\]
becomes
\[\frac{\left(e^{2x}\right)^2}{e^{2x}}+2+\frac{1}{e^{2x}}\]
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Do the same with the middle term 2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
put it over e?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
well multiply it by \[\Large \frac{e^{2x}}{e^{2x}}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay.. now what
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[\frac{\left(e^{2x}\right)^2}{e^{2x}}+2+\frac{1}{e^{2x}}\]
then becomes
\[\frac{\left(e^{2x}\right)^2}{e^{2x}}+\frac{2e^{2x}}{e^{2x}}+\frac{1}{e^{2x}}\]
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