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OpenStudy (aravindg):

Can anyone give me some tricky , or conceptual questions on "tangents and normals" which i can use to teach my fellow students in a lecture tomorrow .I am equipped with ordinary questions(like finding equation of tangent and normal when function is given) but i want the students to use their brains..do help please :)

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

with or without calculus?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

with calculus

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry what do u want exactly ?? @AravindG

OpenStudy (aravindg):

any suggestion ? @UnkleRhaukus , @ujjwal , @dumbcow , @Hero , @Callisto , @.Sam. , @satellite73

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@moha_10 i need a questions above ordinary level which are tricky and need use of "brain" on the topic "tangents and normals".As i told "I am equipped with ordinary questions(like finding equation of tangent and normal when function is given)"

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Hi @AravindG you can use the study material of some coaching centres of IIT they have many such questions

OpenStudy (aravindg):

please share if you have :)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

how many possible tangents does a triangle have?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

gr8 :) hmm lemme think....6?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

three?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

are u sure ?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

a tangent is just a flat side

OpenStudy (aravindg):

|dw:1346766337812:dw| i thought there will be these 3 also ..kk gt it bt wasnt tht question too simple?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

is what sense are those tangents?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i thought if we where asked to draw tangents at vertices we draw like that

hartnn (hartnn):

aren't tangents suppose to touch the curve only in one point ? @UnkleRhaukus

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

tangent are ment to approximate the cure as flat

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@UnkleRhaukus can u think of better qns (involving calculs) ?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

do we usually define the normal as pointing out from the curve or in ? are there two normals to a flat line?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

u see there are a few students who just byheart the formula and appy it mechanically .. i want to teach them why using brain is important

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i dont remember the formula at all,

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

isn's it just the derivative?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

nt formula i mean mechanical proces like finding f'(x) then using slope point form get to eqn of tangent and normal

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i need to get qns which are one steap ahead(which require use of brain") of these usual qns (bt focusing on the same idea )

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

in three dimensions the tangent is a plane right/?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

think so ..i am nt sure

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

what about one dimension ?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

tangent is same as function

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

hmm

hartnn (hartnn):

maybe u can give a equation of a circle and ask them to find the equation of tangent passing through (a,b) where (a,b) is either center or inner point of a circle...they would not be able to find slope only.........

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@hartnn that seems a good idea

OpenStudy (aravindg):

need more such qns

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find all values of a for which 2 curves\[y=ax^2+ax+1\]\[x=ay^2+ay+1\]are tangent to each other.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@mukushla cooooooool!!!!

sam (.sam.):

sam (.sam.):

@mukushla I think if y=ax^2+ax+1 x=2ay+1 will be workable, changed the y^2 to y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah this involves lesser steps...

OpenStudy (mathmate):

@AravindG Is your class working in 2-d or 3-d?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

2d

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Try: Find the shortest distance between two curves f1(x) and f2(x). Example: f1(x)=x^2, and f2(x)=2(x-1)^2+4

OpenStudy (aravindg):

where do we bring in tangents in that?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

This is not an easy problem, because the tangents have to be parallel, but at different values of x on each curve. They would minimize the distance after that.

sam (.sam.):

@AravindG are my 4 questions good enough?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@.Sam.do u have the answers ?

sam (.sam.):

yeah

OpenStudy (aravindg):

post it pls

OpenStudy (aravindg):

yeah ur qns are very useful thx

sam (.sam.):

OpenStudy (aravindg):

thx a lot!!!!

sam (.sam.):

welcome :)

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