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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[\forall A[(A \wedge A)\Leftrightarrow(A\vee A)]\]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"For all (A and A) if and only if (A or A)." Doesn't really make too much sense.

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

t/f

OpenStudy (anonymous):

U mean for all A?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

thats what i mean

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah, I see, you do mean for all A, sorry...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

True

OpenStudy (experimentx):

(A and A) TFTF <-- isn't this same as A? (A or A) <--- this is always true. A and A <-----> A or A .... i guess this would be same as A

OpenStudy (experimentx):

this is logically equivalent to "for all A|A" ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Think he is taking a course in logic and set theory?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A=A, let me just prove that.....

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

true is right

OpenStudy (experimentx):

this doesn't make any sense ... UnkleRhaukus you are playing around with logic ... right?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

is my grammar off?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

where do you use this notation or statement? for all x| ...

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

um

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

mathematics?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Usually you would specify a set....

OpenStudy (experimentx):

and how are you using it? UnkleRhaukus?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is this related to your universal set question from before?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i mean for all sets

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The expression For all x (x^2 is not 2) is ambiguous because no set has been specified. So you would say For all x in R (for example) and then its false or if you specify N, then it's true.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A and A <===> A<====>A or A ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think the problem here (and the other question) is that it is not clear what "universe" we are talking about, math, logic, set theory (which one), etc...

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

it is true.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

does it make sense? for all x|x

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

when u have a proposition like this \[ \large (\forall x)(P(x)) \] then it is true whenever the predicate P(x) is true for all possible values of x.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

\[ \large \forall x|P(x) \] this makes sense but this sounds silly for all x such that x

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

so in \[ \large (\forall A)[(A\wedge A)\leftrightarrow(A\vee A)] \] we can assume A is a proposition (there is no other option, actually).

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

in this example \[ \large P(A):(A\wedge A)\leftrightarrow(A\vee A) \] which is a tautology for every proposition A.

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

sorry i gotta go.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

cya

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