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OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Kindly help with this integration

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos^2\theta)\sin\theta d\theta\]

Parth (parthkohli):

\[\rm= \int_{0}^{\pi}\sin^2 \theta d\theta\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int {\pi to 0} sin^3 \theta d\theta \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I meant : integration (pi to 0) sin^3 theta d theta.

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

The next step is \[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi} -(1-cos^2\theta)d(cos\theta)\]

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

How do we get this step ?

Parth (parthkohli):

Sorry, I got a little confused.\[\int_{0}^{\pi} \sin^3 \theta d\theta\]

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

I got that Parth but that step won't help in the derivation I want to do. Tell me how do we get the next step I mentioned above

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that next step even right or not?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

That step seems to be right because that gives the correct answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sin^3 \theta = - \cos \theta \sin \theta \] it doesn't seem to me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does it give the answer correct with : \[\sin^3 \theta \] ?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Remember the d(cos theta) \[d\theta -----> d(cos\theta)\]

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

It gives the correct answer but that would increase the number of steps.... and of course much more time to do....

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

@experimentX

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

@calculusfunctions

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

OK what can I help you with?

OpenStudy (nubeer):

hmm i don't get the step u have done or how u get that.. however i have a different approach in my mind to solve the question i can if u want.

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

sir please help me with the integration

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Have you tried the substitution method?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

That's where I am stuck What do I have to substitute

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Sorry the better question is, do you know the substitution method?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

I have to get this \[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos^2\theta)\sin\theta d\theta\] to this step \[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi} -(1-cos^2\theta)d(cos\theta)\]

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

No, That is not a good way to start this problem.

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

I know that sir But where do I have to use substitution here and how ?

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

What do you think you should let u equal? Think carefully.

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

@Zekarias please do not give answers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sin(\theta)d \theta=-\frac{d(\cos (\theta))}{d \theta}d \theta=-d(\cos( \theta))\]

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Sir I couldn't get you question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

@vishweshshrimali5 you asked for my help so if you'd like for me to teach you thaen please ask people to stop giving out answers.

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

@everyone kindly pllease wait for sometime

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Sir you may continue.... Please

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Thank you! Now\[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos ^{2}\theta)\sin \theta d \theta\]is what we have correct?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Yes sir

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

OK so tell me what are the derivatives of sine and cosine function.

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

u means \[\cfrac{d}{dx} (sin x) = cos x\] and \[\cfrac{d}{dx} (cos x) = -sin x\]

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Correct! so then u = ? and du = ? What do you think?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

u = cos x and du = -sin x dx

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Keep in mind that sin θdθis outside the parentheses when you make your decision.

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

yep

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Yes! Perfect!! Now what do you think?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

I think lets take \[sin\theta d\theta = -d(cos\theta)\]

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Correct ?

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

No, go ahead and substitute but you now also have to change the intervals in terms of u as well. Do you know what I mean by that?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Yes u mean now the intervals will be for cos theta

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos ^{2}\theta)\sin \theta d \theta \] \[=- \int\limits_{1}^{-1}(1-u ^{2})du\] Do you understand what I did?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Yep

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

And now I should put u = cos theta

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

and integrate it

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

\[\int\limits_{b}^{a}f(x)dx =- \int\limits_{a}^{b}f(x)dx\] This is a theorem. Do you know this?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Yes

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Interchanging the limits and adding a -ve sign

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

So then we have\[\int\limits_{-1}^{1}(1-u ^{2})du\] Correct?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Yes

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Now evaluate this integral. Show me your work please!

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Wait!

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

First ask yourself, is\[1-u ^{2}\]an even function?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Ok \[\int\limits_{-1}^{1}(1-u ^{2})du\] \[= \int\limits_{-1}^{1}du - \int\limits_{-1}^{1}(u^2 du)\] \[= 1-(-1) - \cfrac{1}{3}(1-(-1))\] \[= 2 - \cfrac{2}{3}\] \[=\cfrac{4}{3}\]

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

\[f(u) = 1-u^2\] \[f(-u) = 1-(-u)^2 = 1-u^2 = f(u)\] Even function

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Am I correct sir ?

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

If f(x) is an even function, then\[\int\limits_{-a}^{a}f(x)dx =2\int\limits_{0}^{a}f(x)dx\]Are you aware of this theorem?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Yes I could have used it too

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

It doesn't matter now because you got already got the right answer but you should always be conscious of the theorems since they usually make life easier. Alright?

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Yes sir I will remember it Thanks a lot for your help You really are a wonderful teacher

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Excellent work @vishweshshrimali5 you're obviously very bright.

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Thanks a lot sir

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

@vishweshshrimali5 thanks! Now before I sign off, do you need anything else right now?

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

You're welcome!

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

No sir Thanks a lot again

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Alright then Bye! If you need me the next time I sign in, let me know like you did today. Take Care!

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Bye sir

OpenStudy (vishweshshrimali5):

Thanks everyone else for your help

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