Kindly help with this integration
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos^2\theta)\sin\theta d\theta\]
\[\rm= \int_{0}^{\pi}\sin^2 \theta d\theta\]
\[\int {\pi to 0} sin^3 \theta d\theta \]
I meant : integration (pi to 0) sin^3 theta d theta.
The next step is \[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi} -(1-cos^2\theta)d(cos\theta)\]
How do we get this step ?
Sorry, I got a little confused.\[\int_{0}^{\pi} \sin^3 \theta d\theta\]
I got that Parth but that step won't help in the derivation I want to do. Tell me how do we get the next step I mentioned above
is that next step even right or not?
That step seems to be right because that gives the correct answer
\[\sin^3 \theta = - \cos \theta \sin \theta \] it doesn't seem to me.
does it give the answer correct with : \[\sin^3 \theta \] ?
Remember the d(cos theta) \[d\theta -----> d(cos\theta)\]
It gives the correct answer but that would increase the number of steps.... and of course much more time to do....
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OK what can I help you with?
hmm i don't get the step u have done or how u get that.. however i have a different approach in my mind to solve the question i can if u want.
sir please help me with the integration
Have you tried the substitution method?
That's where I am stuck What do I have to substitute
Sorry the better question is, do you know the substitution method?
I have to get this \[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos^2\theta)\sin\theta d\theta\] to this step \[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi} -(1-cos^2\theta)d(cos\theta)\]
No, That is not a good way to start this problem.
I know that sir But where do I have to use substitution here and how ?
What do you think you should let u equal? Think carefully.
@Zekarias please do not give answers.
\[\sin(\theta)d \theta=-\frac{d(\cos (\theta))}{d \theta}d \theta=-d(\cos( \theta))\]
Just the answer: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+from+0+to+pi+%281-cos%5E2+x%29+sin+x+dx http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%281-cos%5E2+x%29+sin+x+dx
Sir I couldn't get you question
@vishweshshrimali5 you asked for my help so if you'd like for me to teach you thaen please ask people to stop giving out answers.
@everyone kindly pllease wait for sometime
Sir you may continue.... Please
Thank you! Now\[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos ^{2}\theta)\sin \theta d \theta\]is what we have correct?
Yes sir
OK so tell me what are the derivatives of sine and cosine function.
u means \[\cfrac{d}{dx} (sin x) = cos x\] and \[\cfrac{d}{dx} (cos x) = -sin x\]
Correct! so then u = ? and du = ? What do you think?
u = cos x and du = -sin x dx
Keep in mind that sin θdθis outside the parentheses when you make your decision.
yep
Yes! Perfect!! Now what do you think?
I think lets take \[sin\theta d\theta = -d(cos\theta)\]
Correct ?
No, go ahead and substitute but you now also have to change the intervals in terms of u as well. Do you know what I mean by that?
Yes u mean now the intervals will be for cos theta
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\pi}(1-\cos ^{2}\theta)\sin \theta d \theta \] \[=- \int\limits_{1}^{-1}(1-u ^{2})du\] Do you understand what I did?
Yep
And now I should put u = cos theta
and integrate it
\[\int\limits_{b}^{a}f(x)dx =- \int\limits_{a}^{b}f(x)dx\] This is a theorem. Do you know this?
Yes
Interchanging the limits and adding a -ve sign
So then we have\[\int\limits_{-1}^{1}(1-u ^{2})du\] Correct?
Yes
Now evaluate this integral. Show me your work please!
Wait!
First ask yourself, is\[1-u ^{2}\]an even function?
Ok \[\int\limits_{-1}^{1}(1-u ^{2})du\] \[= \int\limits_{-1}^{1}du - \int\limits_{-1}^{1}(u^2 du)\] \[= 1-(-1) - \cfrac{1}{3}(1-(-1))\] \[= 2 - \cfrac{2}{3}\] \[=\cfrac{4}{3}\]
\[f(u) = 1-u^2\] \[f(-u) = 1-(-u)^2 = 1-u^2 = f(u)\] Even function
Am I correct sir ?
If f(x) is an even function, then\[\int\limits_{-a}^{a}f(x)dx =2\int\limits_{0}^{a}f(x)dx\]Are you aware of this theorem?
Yes I could have used it too
It doesn't matter now because you got already got the right answer but you should always be conscious of the theorems since they usually make life easier. Alright?
Yes sir I will remember it Thanks a lot for your help You really are a wonderful teacher
Excellent work @vishweshshrimali5 you're obviously very bright.
Thanks a lot sir
@vishweshshrimali5 thanks! Now before I sign off, do you need anything else right now?
You're welcome!
No sir Thanks a lot again
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Bye sir
Thanks everyone else for your help
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