math section down someone help f(x)= x^3-2x^2 relative min and max using second derivative test?
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im sorry can you link me to it? it wasnt work for me.
Aren't you already in the math section bro?
if you know how to do this, can you help me? plsss
they split them into subsections? before algebra,calc,etc were all in one sections
pls can you help me wi
*with this
im preparing for a test plssss
1. Take the derivative 2. Set it to zero, solve for x 3. Take second derivative 4. Input value of x 5. If negative, then x is max, If positive, then x is min
ok so far ive got f`(x)=3x^2-4x 3x^2-4x=0 x(3x-4)=0 whats next?
Take the derivative of f'(x) = 3x^2 - 4x to find f''(x) To find the zeroes of f'(x) use the zero product property
im confused...can you demonstrate it pls?
Pretend that f'(x) is your new h(x) Now take the derivative of h(x) = 3x^2 - 4x
6x-4 f"(x)
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Okay good
We need to input the zeroes of f'(x) into f''(x)
I'm pretty sure you know how to solve x(3x - 4) = 0
x=0, x=4/3 ??
exactly, now put those values into f''(x) one at a time.
6(0)-4= -4 6(4/3)-4= 4
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Okay, so which is min and which is max?
min=-4 max=4
No, you have it backwards. Re-read the steps I presented to you.
oh max=-4 min=4
thanks i have another one f(x)=x^3 + 3x^2 but let me attempt it first
That's the only thing about second derivative. You have to remember that if f''(x) produces negative value, then f(x) is max, but if f''(x) produces positive value, then f(x) is min
Yes, you should try it first.
No reason why you can't finish it. The only thing is you need to find f(0) and f(4/3) for the previous problem.
ive got...
If I were you, I would make a chart to keep track of everything.
f'(x)=3x^2+6x=0 3x(x+2)=0 x=0 x=2 f"(x)=6x + 6) 6(0)+6=6 6(2)+6=18
You mean x = -2
how so
Take a moment to think about it
hey the program went off are you there
i figured out
Okay good
i have a quite similar question...now i have to find the absolute max and min of f(x)= x^3 + 3x^2 on the interval [1,1]...whats the difference between relative and absolute anyhow
For the first couple problems, there was only one min and one max. Now for this, you will have to choose the highest min and max between several values.
To do this, you do the same exact thing you did before, except this time, you will also have to test x = 1 and x = -1
so i take the first and second derivatives then test -1 and 1? into which derivative?
Basically, do everything you did before (all five steps while ignoring x = -1,1 for the moment). Then after you have completed the five steps, then also evaluate x = -1,1
might need a demonstration...its kind of confusing..let me attempt first
Basically just pretend you don't have [1,1] for now.
Pretend that you have to find the relative min and max of f(x)= x^3 + 3x^2
So perform the five steps as usual.
Let me know what you get afterwards
f'(x)=3x^2+6x x(3x-6)=0 x=0 x=6/3 f"(x)=6x+6 6(0)+6=6 6(6/3)+6=
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6/3 = 2 btw
x^3 + 3x^2 was orginal function
yea i forgot to type 18
What? Where does 18 come from? I said 6/3 = 2
2 * 6 + 6=18?
Okay, but
We only need to consider x values between -1 and 1 so x = 2 is out
ohhh ok
So basically you need to test: f''(-1) f''(0) f''(1)
ohh gotcha
If I were you, I would just simply test f(-1) f(0) f(1) That will tell you the min and max
You're only looking for the extreme min and extreme max
i see thanks for the help. i have several more questions though
I bet you do
how do i solve 3^(x^2 - x) = (1/9)^(3x)
im preparing for a test sorry
For this, I'll need to write out the steps so that you can see them
thats fine
can you pls?
Hang on a sec bro
ok
Okay, I have it
I'll send you a link to vyew for this
ok no problem
is that the final answer
No, bro. It is freezing up
ohhh ok
Good luck figuring out the steps
You probably got lost somewhere. I just know it
yeah bro ill try...you think you can help with this last one? 3+ 2e^(-t)= 7
That's an easy one bro
have to solve the equation....ill try to go over it and ask my peers for help
damn bro im so tire from all this studyy...i really cant figure out that one
Go back to vyew bro
ok
thanks for all the help bro
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