Solve the following inequalities; that is, find the range(s) of values of X for which the inequality is satisfied. (Picture Included)
I have a bunch that I have worked on but these 3 are giving me trouble. Conviniently labelled a,b,c. :) Thanks in advance anyone that can help!
Let's work on letter (a) for now. \[\frac{x^{2}-6x+3}{x-3}\le1\] For these types of problems, particularly when quadratic expressions involved, see if they can be factored. Incidentally...
Incidentally, the numerator can be factored, like so \[\frac{\left( x-3\right)^{2}}{x-3}\le1\]
once its factored as such, can I cancel 1 set of (x-3) and thus make it x-3 < 1?
I was wondering when you'd show up :D lol Just kidding... Yes, indeed, you can cancel it out, and make it much simpler as an inequality :)
had to go toilet lol. So from here could I do +3 to both sides to make it x < 4 ?
You're incredibly thorough :) And you're RIGHT ;)
Thanks for that, I am new to inequalities and still learning all the tricks. :) How would I tackle b) ?
Well, can you factor it?
Right, I think it can't be factored in any manner that I know of. How about you?
Not unless it got really complex with decimals but I can't see how to factor it either.
Ok, before anything else, what's your final answer to (a) ?
It should be in the form of a set (interval), since it's a range you're looking for.
I thought x<4 was the final answer for a) :S
Is that how you normally do it? If it is, I won't contest it :)
From what I was taught, as long as there is a single x on one side and a variable on the other the problem is solved, is it possible to manipulate further for a range?
TYPO lol Work from this one instead \[\frac{5x^{2}+5x-2}{2x+1}=3x-5\] my bad, sorry :/
5x^2 + 5x -2 = 0, thus quad formula for +/- etc. Is what I'd do if it wasn't an inequality.
Yeah, granted, but 5x^2 + 5x - 2 = 0 is not what I'm asking you, I'm asking about the one more similar to your (b) problem: \[\frac{5x^{2}+5x-2}{2x+1}=3x-5\]
You multiply 2x + 1 on both sides, first, right?
hmm, yes making the right a fraction as well.
Thus ending up with \[5x^{2}+5x-2=(3x-5)(2x+1)\]
No fraction, making the right a *polynomial* as well :)
ahh lol a poly rather.
Ok, so that's good and well with equalities. You can almost do the same thing with inequalities, following a few rules. You realise that what we did was multiply both sides of the equality by the same expression, right?
correct and eliminating the fraction.
Well, allow me to present a scenario of sorts :) 5 < 7 This inequality holds, undoubtedly What if you multiply 2 to both sides of the inequality, does the "<" still hold?
Multiplying 2 to both sides, you get 10 < 14 And indeed, the inequality holds. However, what if instead of 2, we multiply -2 on both sides? Does the "<" still hold?
No, the sign would reverse as -10 is > -14.
That's right :D Behold the multiplication property of inequality :D If a < b Then ka < kb if k > 0 AND ka > kb if k < 0
Now, back to our dilemma The problem is we don't have \[\frac{5x^{2}+5x-2}{2x+1}=3x-5\] instead, we have \[\frac{5x^{2}+5x-2}{2x+1}<3x-5\] What do we do now?
Well, following the Multiplication Property of Inequality, first, let's consider the case where \[x>-\frac{1}{2}\]or\[2x+1>0\] Then...?
would that thus infer the x value is >0?
Well, technically, no, but that's not the reason we consider this case. If indeed, \[2x+1 > 0\] then\[5x^{2}+5x-2 \ \ \ \left\{ <,>,= \right\} \ \ \ (3x-5)(2x+1)\] Which of these three signs do you use?
Remember, we multiplied both sides by 2x + 1 And 2x + 1 > 0 Therefore...?
I think it would now be < as you mentioned earlier if ka < kb if k >0, if our k here is 2x+1 which is >0 and it has multiplied both sides then would < hold true?
You're right :D In other words, since we multiplied both sides by something *positive*, the inequality "<" is preserved Now then, do everything you can, evaluate, simplify, until you make it so that you have 0 on one side of the inequality.
If you get stuck, just give me a holler ;)
sure thing, I'll work on it now.
Ok, I got as far as this...
5x^2+5x-2 < (3x-5)(2x+1) -3x -3x 5x^2+2x-2 < (-5)(2x+1) -2x -2x 5x^2-2 < (-5)(1) +2 +2 5x^2<(-3)*(1) 5x^2< -3
Ok, there's something not quite right about your first step. You ought to evaluate (3x - 5)(2x + 1) before you do any of your addition property tricks :) You know FOIL method, right? ;)
yep, I'll foil now.
6x^2+3x-10x-5 ?
Yes, good, so far, now simplify 3x - 10x, and then simplify the rest of the inequality
Final result was 12x+3>x^2
err <
I don't know how to reduce the x^2 further from here :\
Ok, wait, are you sure that the the equation has 5x^2 + 5x -2 And not 5x^2 - 5x - 2 ?
yep it's +5x, I screenshotted the question sheet.
Oh, well, there is a solution, but it's not pretty :( I hope you're ready for this...
Hit me! :)
Ok, I think I better take you through this :) We have 5x^2 + 5x - 2 < (3x - 5)(2x + 1) Evaluating through FOIL, we get 5x^2 + 5x - 2 < 6x^2 -7x - 5 Subtracting 5x^2 from both sides, we get 5x - 2 < x^2 - 7x - 5 Subtract 5x from both sides, you get -2 < x^2 - 12x - 5 Add 2 to both sides, you get 0 < x^2 - 12x - 3 Getting it? :)
yep, this way everything lines up on one side.
But now that we have 0<x^2-12x-3, How do we determine the range?
Well, if it were, say, 0 < x^2 - 2x + 3, for instance First, we determine the results of 0 = x^2 - 2x - 3 0 = (x - 3)(x + 1) And the results happen to be -1 and 3. We'll call these "critical numbers" So, for x <-1, (x+1) < 0 and (x-3) < 0 So (x+1)(x-3) > 0 For x > -1 and x < 3 x + 1 > 0 x - 3 < 0 (x+1)(x-3) < 0 For x > 3 x + 1 > 0 x - 3 > 0 (x+1)(x-3) > 0 So the range for the inequality x^2 - 2x - 3 is x < -1 UNION x > 3 Get it?
Yep, I've learned them as critical points or inflection points I assume this is the same thing? but the term "UNION" eludes me, what does that mean, are you able to post a symbol from the equation generator?
Union, uhh OR \[x < -1 \cup x > 3\]
ahh yep, I know that symbol as "set of elements in"
Ok, well, you do something similar, except your expression x^2 -12x -3 is not factorable. I'm sorry, it looks like you have to use your quadratic formula o.O
lol no worries. To err and err then to err less and less :)
Thank you for all your help, I however must go to bed, I will be on later tomorrow. Cheers for everything mate.
oh I was about to tell you the same thing :D We must be from adjacent or similar timezones :D
I would assume such although a fantastic userbase, 118 on at the moment is quite small. The night owls are out. I partially quoted one of my favourites: ”The road to wisdom? — Well, it’s plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again but less and less and less.” — Piet Hein (1905–1996) Have a good night bud. :)
Need help with b) and c) :|
i didn't read all of the above, but for the first two you have to set the expression less than zero or greater than zero, you cannot solve as it is written and you cannot multiply both sides by any expression containing the variable, as you do not know if it is positive or negative
\[\frac{5x^2+5x-2}{2x+1}-(3x-5)<0\] is the first step of number 2 then you have to actually do the subtraction
kk I'll attempt now.
Should I multiply both sides by 2x+1 to make it 5x^2+5x-2 - (3x-5)(2x+1) < 0 ?
no you cannot do that because you don't know if \(2x+1\) is positive or negative you have to change the sense of the inequality when you multiply by a negative number, that is why you cannot multiply both sides of an inequality by any expression containing a variable
ahh ok
you just have to do the subtraction, get a numerator and a denominator
you should get \[\frac{-x^2+12x+3}{2x+1}<0\]
So would that mean, 5x^2+2x+3/2x+1<0 5x-3x, -2-(-5), is what I did here with the like terms.
How did you get -x^2+12x+3, I got the +3 but not the others?
you need to subtract. i am pretty sure what i wrote is correct
I just mean can you show me the syntax of your subtraction?
\[\frac{5x^2+5x-2}{2x+1}-(3x-5)<0\] \[\frac{5x^2+5x-2-(3x-5)(2x+1)}{2x+1}<0\] and then algebra to clean up th enumerator
ahh foiled the right hand side then did subtractions.
kk I'm caught up now, from here with -x^2+12x+3/2x+1 < 0 How should I proceed?
@satellite73 Need help on proceeding. :S
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