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OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

Find a number on the closed interva; [3/4,5/4] such that the sum of the number and its reciprocal is... a.) as small as possible b.) as large as possible

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

my answers are a.) 3/4 and b.) 5/4 but I am told these are wrong...

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

for a.) 3/4 is on the interval and if you add it to its reciprocal 4/3, you would get the smallest number possible, correct?

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

actually now that i checked with my calculator you can get values on the interval that when added to the reciprocal you get smaller numbers than (3/4)+(4/3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let f(x) = x + 1/x. Then take the first derivative and check to see if you can find if the first derivative is 0 inside the interval. If you find such an x, check to see if it is a min or max. If min, check against the f(endpoints) of the interval.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

how did you know to use that equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you are adding a number and its reciprocal, the number is x and its reciprocal is 1/x. What you are doing is finding a value of a function in an interval, specifically, a closed interval, and it is an important distinction on whether the interval is open or closed. So, this is a function and it is the sum of what is indicated above.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

ok, i have the first derivative, so i set that equal to zero and find x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Even if the problem were something trivial like "find the largest value in the interval [10, 15], you could represent this by the function y=x, which is a trivially simple function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If that is even possible. It might be the case that the first derivative is not 0 in that interval or even for all x (outside the interval), but it has to be checked for 0 within the interva, to see if we have any critical values.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

ok critical value is x= +-1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, good, but we are talking about a function that is defined (for our purposes) only in the specified interval. The function itself is valid over more than just our interval, but we have set the limitation of just this interval, because we can, and because it leads us to the solution. So, we are only concerned about +1 for x as a critical value. Now, you could take the second derivative and see that the second derivative is positive in that interval, or just realize that the first derivative goes from - to + around x=1. So we have a relative min for ALL x. And since we are talking only about the interval, you HAVE TO check f(x) at the endpoint of the interval against f(1).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, your function looks like a bowl (concave up) with f(1) at the bottom of the bowl so that value of f(1) will be the min, so this boils down to checking f(3/4) and f(5/4) to see what will be the max.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

ok the largest value is f(3/4)

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

and i found the second derivative which is 2/x^3 and the value is f''(1) is positive which means that 1 is the minimum, correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Actually, f(1) is the minimum which is equal to 2.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

right, the value of f''(1) is positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I've got a neat picture of the graph for you.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

oh nice

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That website in the corner is a free online graphing calculator and much more. And easy to use!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just changed the scale on x and y for the graph, and you can see the max and min very clearly. It's a great tool. You might want to experiment with it.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

thanks, i like the way it looks

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

i will thank you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm going to attach another shot of the graph. Hold on.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm sure I could do better with more familiarity but you get the picture.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

much easier to see the max vs. min

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Even though it could still be better, you better see the difference in f(x) values now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry, I worded that backwards. Trying again. Even though it could still be better, you CAN better see the difference in f(x) values now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My first wording was awkward, sorry.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"better see" was meant to be typed "see better". Maybe I'm slightly dyslexic.

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

haha no worries

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Any way. I hope I'm helping and I really appreciate the recognition!

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

yes thank you very much for the help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Good luck to you in all of your studies, and it was a pleasure working with you! I hope we run into each other again!

OpenStudy (babyslapmafro):

definitely, take care

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