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OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Integration. Spot any errors? Thanks in advance.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think this is right, let me do it another way and see if we get the same answer i would put \(u=2x+1, x=\frac{u}{2}-\frac{1}{2}, du= 2dx\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh and so \(\frac{1}{2}du = dx \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

get \[\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{u}{2\sqrt{u}}du-\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{1}{2\sqrt{u}}du\] or maybe factor out the \(\frac{1}{2}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then rewrite with exponents and integrate that way

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

then i substitute sqrt(2x+1) , right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks like we get the same answer though, so no problem here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah after integrating

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Wait. why are you getting a negative sign in between?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we get the same thing as an answer this method gives \(\frac{1}{6}u^{\frac{3}{2}}-\frac{1}{2}u^{\frac{1}{2}}\)

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

But i don't get the format of wolfram. :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get a negative sign because if i make \(u=2x+1\) then the \(x\) in the numerator is \(\frac{u}{2}-\frac{1}{2}\)

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

how you got this step? \[\frac{1}{2}\int\limits\frac{u}{2\sqrt{u}}du-\frac{1}{2}\int\limits\frac{1}{2\sqrt{u}}du \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe my constants are off if you look here http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integal+x%2Fsqrt%281%2B2x%29 wolf does it the same way i did

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think maybe you are missing this: if you make the u - sub \(u=2x+1\) you have to solve for \(x\) for the \(x\) in the numerator

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

In your way you found the substitution thing on your own, right? In our syllabus, the substitution thing will always be given.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

once you do that, you get \[x=\frac{1}{2}u-\frac{1}{2}\] so you break the integral in to two parts

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Sorry. Idk what sub u is. :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is the chain rule in reverse basically

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Now i get what you did in the last step^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have a composition of functions and you put \(u\)= the inside piece

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i guess we can do it your way too

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

And how you got sqrtu in the denominators?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

So is my answer right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, now you get \(\sqrt{u}\) in the denominator, so you can use the power rule rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are off by a constant somewhere let me find it

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Thank you!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well no actually you are not. your answer is correct

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

And i still don't get how you got sqrt u in the denominator?!

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Yay! :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh because i turned \(u\) in to \(2x+1\) and so \(\sqrt{2x+1}=\sqrt{u}\)

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Shouldn't that go in the numerator?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no because it is in the denominator

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is a simpler example if i had \[\int\frac{x^2dx}{\sqrt{x^3+5}}\] would make \(u=x^3+5,du=3x^2dx,\frac{1}{3}du=x^2dx\) and rewrite the whole thing as \[\frac{1}{3}\int\frac{du}{\sqrt{u}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, that is the numerator, replace \(x\) by \(\frac{u}{2}-\frac{1}{2}\) but the denominator is still \(\sqrt{u}\)

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Thank you! :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol yw but you have it right, so good work

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Thank you.

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