Find out \(x\) and \(y\) :- \(3\dfrac{7}{x} \times y\dfrac{3}{15}=8\)
Diophantine equation?
o_O
\[\dfrac{3x + 7}{x} + \dfrac{5y + 1}{5} = 8\]
Diophantine equation=? It's the question of N.T.S.E algebra, i don't know nothing more than this
Do you need just the integer solutions?
\[\frac{15x+35+5yx+x}{5x}=8\]\[16x+35+5yx=40x\]\[35+5yx=24x\]& yes @ParthKohli i only need an integer solution :)
Hmm... complete the square?
35 = (24 - 5y)x try factorizing 35
3 + 7/x + y+1/5 =8 7/x + y = 24/5 7/x = (24-5y)/5 So, x=5n and 7=(24-5y)n y=4 + (4n-7)/5n
Since 5n>4n-7 for n>0 No positive integer solution
ans. 11, 2
looks like you didn't do the algebra correctly .. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integer+solution+35%2B5yx%3D24x
Hey! parth i found a page on diophantine equations
Yes! @experimentX I was searching for the factoring trick =)
this is a classic trick 35 = 1x35 35 = 7x5 -------------- 1*35 = x * (5y - 24) compare these types of factors and see if you get integer values. just an example :)
@jiteshmeghwal9 Search for Art of Problem Solving's video: Simon's Favorite Factoring Trick
Then is the answer given in my book is wrong ?
no ... what i copied was erroneous data
ohh..k
hah!! how could this yield same result http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integer+solution+7%2Fx+%3D+%2824-5y%29%2F5
perhaps the algebra was right and the answer on book is wrong.
(3 + 7/x) (y +3/15) =8 (y+3/15) = 8/(3 +7/x) (15y+3)/15 = 8x/(3x+7) => 8x =(15y+3)n =>(3x+7)=15n
even the solution is pretty clear from this equation 7 (24-5y) -- = -------- x 5
24-5y=7 5y=17 y=17/5 x=5
Is this the right answer ?
@experimentX ?
But \(17/5\) is not an integer :P
woops!! sorry ... i guess I made error there. Let me check again. Don't have much time.
3 + 7/x + y +1/5 =8 (3x+7)/x = 8 - y - 1/5 -------------------- \[ \frac{3x+7}{x} = \frac{5(8-y)-1 }{5} \]
multiply both by 'k' ... numerator and denominator, and look for integer values. x = 5k 15k + 7 = 5(8-y)-1
the original problem is \[3\frac{7}{x}\times y\frac{3}{15}=8\] but your beginning line is \[3\frac{7}{x}\color{red} + y\frac{3}{15}=8\] so you probably will not get \(x=11,y=2\)
I'm totally confused
LOL, @sirm3d u wrote we'll \(\LARGE\star not\) get x=11, y=2, haha :)
(3 + 7/x) (y +3/15) =8 (y+3/15) = 8/(3 +7/x) (15y+3)/15 = 8x/(3x+7) => 8x =(15y+3)n =>(3x+7)=15n
I guess NO SOLUTION
Everyone has their own opinion, what's the real answer ???
i found the solution \(11,\;y=2\)
x =(7y+21)/(111-3y)
7(y+3)/3(37-y)
If solution exists 7y+21>=111-3y =>y>=9
\[\vdots\\(3x+7)(25y+1)=40x\\40x=(1,40x),(2,20x),\dots (40,x);(x,40),(2x,20),\dots,(40x,1)\]
typo error above. it should be \(5y+1\) by choosing \((40,x)\) as factors of 40, \[3x+7=40,\;5y+1=x\]
x=21,y=40 is a solution for the problem as initially stated
\[3x+7=40\Rightarrow x=11\\5y+1=x=11\Rightarrow y=2\]
(3 +7/x) (y+3/15) =8 . . . y=(31x+21)/(15x+35) y=(30x+70+x-49)/(15x+35) y=2 + (x-49)/(15x+35)
when x=-6 y = 2 + (-6-49) / (15 *(-6) +35) y=3
So, x=-6 and y=3
Now, Since I15x+35I > Ix-49I for x<=-7 and x>=1 x cannot be l than and equal to -7 and cannot be greater than 1
And NO SOLUTION in the interval -5<=x<=0
So, If I did my algebra correct the only solution is x=-6 and y=3
And which equation do you find x=-6 and y = 3 to solve?
Achcha toh upar waali equation ko simplify karke kya nikalta hai?
35+5yx=24x
Toh hum diophantine equations mein factorization kar sakte hain jinka form hai \(axy + bx + cy =0\) ya phir \(axy + bx + c\) ya phir \(axy + by + c\).
Trick hai ki humein woh constant ko ek side laana hai aur left side factor karna hai
accha thik hai toh equation 35+5yx-24x=0 mein change ho jaayegi
Ab equation mein -1 multiply karo aur 35 dusri side le jao
pehle -1 multiplly karu yaa 35 dudri side le jaaun ?
Kuch bhi kar lo yaar!
-1(35+5yx-24x)=0 -35-5yx+24x=0 -5yx+24x=35
haan, LHS factor karo
-x(5y-24)
Yes, ab dhyan se dekho:\[35 = 1\times 35 \\ 35 = 7\times 5 \\ 35 = 5\times 7 \\ 35 = 35\times 1 \]
Toh dekho, hum dekh sakte hain ki \(-x\) aur \(5y - 24\) ka product \(35\) hai, right?
yes!
Par jo maine upar post kiya, jaise \(1,35\) aur \(7,5\) etc., unka bhi toh product \(35\) hai na!
haan
Matlab ki humara solution inmein se ek equations se niklega:\[-x = 1, \ \ 5y - 24 =35 \\ -x = 7, \ 5y-24 =5 \\ -x = 5, \ 5y - 24 = 7 \\ -x = 35, 5y - 24 = 1\]
Jis bhi equation mein dono \(x\) aur \(y\) integer ho, wohi answer hai!
4th equation :- x=-35 y=5
Yes =) ab answer check karo
book ke answer se toh yeh match nahi kar raha hai
Arrey book ko chhodo, book khoosat hoti hain ;)
haha, ok i gt it, thanx :)
You're welcome ^_^
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