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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Approximate to the nearest tenth the real zeros of g(x)=2x^5+3x-2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@terenzreignz
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Newton Rhapson method?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what's that?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i never met that method?
never heard of it
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
It's the only method I know to approximate zeroes :(
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
is there a formula?
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
If you've never heard of it, chances are it's not the correct way to solve this...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ahaha
OpenStudy (anonymous):
do you know other methods in getting the real zeros
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Nope :(
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
>.<
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i'' ll pick another one
OpenStudy (anonymous):
solve for b in the equation\[\sqrt{3^{b}}=2^{b +1}\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
First things first... you have to express them with the same base, right? Which one do you want, 2 or 3?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
3
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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Okay, so... let's do this...
\[\huge 3^{\frac12b}=2^{b+1}\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
welp... actually, it might be easier to just get the natural logarithm of both sides...
\[\huge \ln3^{\frac12b}=\ln2^{b+1}\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
See where it goes from here?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what does ln stands for?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is that the same with log
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@terenzreignz
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
It's the logarithm with base e, or approximately 2.718
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ahhhhhhhh
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
So, due to the properties of logarithms, we get...
\[\huge \frac{1}{2}b\ln \ 3 = (b+1)\ln \ 2\]
and solve.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i don't know ? ? ?
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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
ln 3 and ln 2 are just constants.
You can double both sides, giving you
\[\huge b\ln \ 3 = 2(b+1)\ln \ 2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you multiply both sides with 2 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
I just did. To make it simpler, at least. Now let's rearrange a bit\[\huge b\ln \ 3 = (b+1)2\ln \ 2\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Properties of logarithms again, to make it more pleasing to the eye...
\[\huge b\ln \ 3 = (b+1)\ln \ 2^2\]
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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
So finally
b ln 3 = (b+1) ln 4
Now solve.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
will i divide both sides by\[\ln 3\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
It's a start.
\[\huge b =(b+1)\frac{\ln \ 4}{\ln \ 3}\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
For simplicity, let's let
\[\huge k = \frac{\ln \ 4}{\ln \ 3}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
k stand for CONSTANT, isn't it?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
but where does the b+1
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Just so that it's easier. Now solve for b
b = (b+1)k
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ b }{b +1 }=k\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
We're not solving for k, we're solving for b.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ b }{ b +1}=\ln 4\div \ln 3\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
is it right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@terenzreignz
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
It's right, but it doesn't help you, it's b you want to solve for.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what's the right thing to do?
i'm already comfused?
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
b = (b+1)k
Distribute k
b = bk + k
then bring bk to the left
b - bk = k
factor out b
b(1-k) = k
divide both sides by k
\[\huge b = \frac{k}{1-k}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
will i substitute now the value f k ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
will i substitute now the value f k ?\[b =\frac{\frac{ \ln 4 }{\ln 3 }}{1+\frac{ \ln 4 }{\ln 3 }}\]
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Yes.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
0.557885891
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@terenzreignz
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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
don't have a calculator. as long as you keyed in the correct values, you should be fine.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
TJ
i had an answer but this answer doesn't fit with it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
our teacher had checked it. . .
my answer was right but i don't have the solutions. .
now, our teacher needed the solutions as our project
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the answer there is -4.8188
OpenStudy (anonymous):
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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Problem... I honestly don't know :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
?????????
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
I don't know how to get to your answer :(
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@terenzreignz
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Wait, I know now...
You put a plus sign instead of a minus sign.... Review the posts earlier :P
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
hahahaa
i see the difference
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
Good.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-4.818841679
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i reallly got the answer
yepey . .
thanks or your help . . .
TJ
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
No problem :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
do you know somebody who's good in statistics
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@terenzreignz
terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
No... Just post in a new question, and start with the words "STATISTICS QUESTION"
That ought to attract anybody good in Stat :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
can you convince her or him to help me ??????please
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
thanks 4 the advice
see you tomorrow
bye
good night
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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):
:)