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OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn @jim_thompson5910 Think you can help me with 2 hard questions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wut are they?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Consider the equation 7x + 3y = 42. Part 1: On your own paper, graph this equation using the slope-intercept method. In the space provided, explain, in words, each step of the procedure you used. Make sure to use complete sentences and correct grammar. Part 2: On your own paper, graph this equation using the intercepts method. In the space provided, explain, in words, each step of the procedure you used. Make sure to use complete sentences and correct grammar. ------------------------------------- Consider the line that passes through the point (-3, 2) and has a slope of 3. Part 1: Write the equation of this line using point-slope form. Part 2: Using your equation from part 1, rewrite this equation in slope-intercept form. Make sure to show all of your work. Part 3: Using your equation from part 2, rewrite this equation in standard form. Make sure to show all of your work.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

to do part 1 for 7x + 3y = 42, you need to first solve for y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y is 14, right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well you're doing the intercepts method, which is part 2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but part 1 wants 7x + 3y = 42 in slope intercept form first

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you are correct though, the y-intercept is 14

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y = x + 14?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

7x + 3y = 42 3y = 42 - 7x 3y = -7x + 42 y = -7x/3 + 42/3 y = -7/3x + 14 so you were close

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you forgot to divide the -7x by 3 to get -7/3x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah i always forget that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so y = -7/3x + 14 tells us that the y-intercept is 14

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we start with the point (0,14) then using the slope, you go down 7 units, then go to the right 3 units to get to the point _____

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(3,7) ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good, you now have 2 points needed to graph this line

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the two points are (0, 14) and (3, 7)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm really stumped on part 2.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

part 2 is using the method we did beforehand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm horrible at the standard way

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

where you plug in x = 0 to find y then plug in y = 0 to find x remember that method?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's what you're doing for part 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, can you help on the second one?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

point-slope form is this y - y1 = m(x - x1)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

m is the slope (x1, y1) is the point that the line goes through

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we're given Consider the line that passes through the point (-3, 2) and has a slope of 3. so the slope is m = 3 the given point it goes through is (-3, 2), so (x1,y1) = (-3, 2) ----> x1 = -3, y1 = 2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so y - y1 = m(x - x1) y - y1 = 3(x - x1) ... plug in the slope y - 2 = 3(x - (-3)) ... plug in the point the line goes through y - 2 = 3(x + 3)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and you leave it like that because they want it in point-slope form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Awesome! Thanks.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

parts 2 and 3 should be pretty straight forward, if not, let me know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, thanks so much :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yw

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Graphing the line using intercepts methods, that should be easy. Let's work on that

OpenStudy (ash2326):

7x + 3y = 42 A line with x intercept a and y intercept b is of the form \[\frac x a +\frac y b=1\] So, here we'll divide the whole equation by 42 \[\frac{7x}{42}+\frac{3y}{42}=\frac{42}{42}\] \[\frac{x}{6}+\frac{y}{14}=1\] Do you understand this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Somewhat, yes.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

So tell me what are the x intercept and y intercept is here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x- 6 and y-14 ?

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Read my second post again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't think I understand it. I'm horrible at this form of it.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ash2326, I think when unheard wrote out "x- 6 and y-14" she meant that the x-intercept is 6 and the y-intercept is 14

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Is it @unheard ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, That's what I meant.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

I'm sorry, ok let's plot it

OpenStudy (ash2326):

x intercept 6 y intercept 14 So we have two points \[(6, 0), (0, 14)\] Let's mark these on graph, and then we'll join them to get the line|dw:1363916049049:dw|

OpenStudy (ash2326):

|dw:1363916095022:dw| I have joined the two points with a line, and extended it both the sides. Do you understand this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Ok, let's work on the other one

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Consider the line that passes through the point (-3, 2) and has a slope of 3. Point slope form of the equation It uses the definition of slope, do you know what's slope?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hold on, I don't know how I would type the other one out.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

I'll given you some idea

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Steps 1) Divide the whole equation by 42, to get 1 on right side. 2) Simplify the left side to get the intercept form of the equation 3) In the denominator of x is the value of x intercept, mark the point (6, 0) on the graph 4) In the denominator of y is the value of y intercept, mark the point (0, 14) on the graph 5) Join the two points using a line and extend the line both sides to get the required line

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, got that down. :)

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Ok, so what's slope?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Gah I can't figure it out :(

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Slope is change in y over change in x Suppose you have two points (1, 2) and (3, 5) \[Slope=\frac{5-2}{3-1}=\frac 32\] The higher the slope, the steeper will be the line |dw:1363916825174:dw| Do you get some idea?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So 3/2? I can't really tell without the number line, thing. I'm usually better with visuals.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

|dw:1363917019889:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So yes?

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Do you get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, mostly. It's a bit late so I'm a bit out of it, but I think I get it. I just REALLY need help on 2 + 3 of the second one.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Line passes through the point (-3, 2) and has a slope of 3. Let's find the point slope form of the line Let (x, y ) be on the line, other point is (-3, 2) Writing the slope formula \[\frac{y-2}{x-(-3)}=3\] \[\frac{y-2}{x+3}=3\] This is the slope point form do you get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The second one is the point- slope form?

OpenStudy (ash2326):

yes

OpenStudy (ash2326):

You can cross multiply it \[y-2=3(x+3)\]

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