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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How would you solve this equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y\[y ^{4}+y \prime \prime \prime-3y \prime \prime-5y \prime-2y=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ignore the first y on the 1st line.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[D(D^2-3D-5)y+(y^4-2y)=0\] solve the "D" to get the general solution and the the particular solution lengthy one man

OpenStudy (anonymous):

D = deifferential operator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

unfortunately, I got like 3 or 4 more like these to go.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

get the roots of the operator function gives you the exponential solutions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got -1 and 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there should be a "0" too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64 @satellite73

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I assumed that they were repeated roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Mertsj

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hope one of those helps.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I hope that they answer, too.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, electro did well, you solve the characteristic polynomial for the roots and then your solution has to do with c_n e^(r_n x), given the r_n is a root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did and am gettin -1 and 2.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

r^4 +r^3 - 3r^2 - 5r - 2 = 0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if you only have 2 roots out of the 4, you might want to modify the e^rx with an x :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

eg?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in other words, if you have a multiply root; k then you modify it as such:\[c_1e^{kx}+c_2x~e^{kx}+c_3 x^2 e^{kx}+...+c_n x^{n-1}e^{kx}\]for n multiples of a root

OpenStudy (amistre64):

are the roots multiples? or are there complex roots as well?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i believe that they are just multiples.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so ... 2,-1,-1,-1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, would it be -1, -1, 2, and 2?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

no, the -2 is a single root, there are 3 multiples of -1 as roots

OpenStudy (amistre64):

pfft, the 2 is a single root :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh right, i forgot to use my brain. ok the?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then*

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then just write up the solution using the modification of a multiple root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nevermind i think i got it. thanks! I really appreciacte it!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[y=c_0e^{2x}+c_1e^{-x}+c_2xe^{-x}+c_3x^2e^{-x}\] \[y=c_0e^{2x}+e^{-x}(c_1+c_2x+c_3x^2)\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if your solution had used the x^m format, then modification are made by multiples of ln(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you help me with a few more?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good luck ;)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i can try

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks, let me start a new post or should i give them out on here?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

a new post would allow others to participate and provide their insights as well. freshens things up :)

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