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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Determine the intervals where the graph is concave up and concave down. y = x^3 - 3x^2 + 4x - 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@wio can u help?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find inflection points when \(f''(x) = 0\). When \(f''(x)>0\) it is concave up.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do i do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know how to get the second derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get 6x - 6

OpenStudy (mertsj):

Set it equal to 0 and solve.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (mertsj):

That will be an inflection point.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 1 is the inflection point

OpenStudy (mertsj):

Write 6x-6>0 and solve. It is concave up when the second derivative is greater than 0 And yes. 1 is the inflection point.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it will be concave

OpenStudy (mertsj):

Concave up when second derivative >0 Concave down when second derivative <0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (mertsj):

Here is the graph: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y+%3Dx^3+-+3x^2+%2B+4x+-+1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay so the second derivative is > 0 so it will be concave up right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in general, critical values are determined by =0, or undefined

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its wrong?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you need to define an some intervals, you found that at x=0, the concavity changes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay how do i do that?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what is the concavity for x < 0, what is it for x > 0 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well for x < 0 it concave down and for x > 0 it concave up

OpenStudy (amistre64):

correct, then your interval of cave up is? (0,inf) right? or do we have another point of inflection looming out there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well how about 1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6x - 6 = 0, i got 1 after i solved

OpenStudy (amistre64):

fine, use 1 then :) i misread the top part and thought yall deduced this to 0 :) cave up: (1,inf) what would you determine as an interval for cave down?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm would it have negative on it? or

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it would, since it goes to -inf. so, cave down: (-inf,1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

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