Prove or disprove: The set {(x, y),(a, b) | 3a + b = x, y = 2x − a} is a function from R × R to R × R.
@jim_thompson5910
so the rule is (x,y) ----> (a,b) where 3a + b = x, y = 2x − a
Would you begin by showing that a,b are arbitrary elements in RxR thus since x = 3a +b and y = 2(3a+b) - a then x,y must also be in RxR?
so (a,b) is the input, (x,y) is the output?
I'm not sure which is which
Other way around, sorry. (a,b) is input
so if this was a function, then (a,b) would map to EXACTLY ONE ordered pair (x,y)
correct
if (a,b) produced more than one ordered pair, then you can use that to disprove it's a function
Correct, I cannot find any (a,b) that produces more than a single ordered pair, so how would I being proving this to be true?
let's focus on 3a + b = x first
3a + b is linear for a and b, so if you imagine setting up a 3-space axis (x, y, z axis), then 3a+b would be a plane in this 3-space setting
for any given a and b, you get some height x, which is exactly one height I think
correct
so that leads me to think that 3a+b = x produces one value of x given any fixed (a,b) value
Could you simply write (a,b) maps to (3a +b, 5a -b)?
Could you simply write (a,b) maps to (3a +b, 5a + b)? rather
how did you get the second value in the ordered pair?
oh you plugged in x = 3a+b
into y = 2x − a and simplified
y = 2x - a, thus y = 2(3a +b) - a thus y = 6a + b - a, which means y = 5a + b
i gotcha
yeah a --> 3a+b which is basically mapping a line to a line b ---> 5a+b is also a line-to-line mapping
so I think that's enough info to say that any given input produces one output
and since they are linear there is only one input/output pair thus it must be a function by the horizontal line test?
you mean vertical line test, but yes that's correct
Yea sorry, my bad. Thank you for your help.
you're welcome
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