Can someone help me??? please
/wave Afternoon! More fun?
Evaluate the radical notation \[\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt[3]{64^2} }\]
@e.mccormick yes! lol, I got some of them done this morning but I got stuck right here.
OK. So you are squaring it and taking the cube root. Good news is it is a power of two and most of those play nice.
so than it will look like: \[\frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt[3]{4096} }\]
Yes, but you can take the cube root of that. If you are not sure of it, factor nd look for sets of 3 to pull out.
but, what if i just dont want to ? jk
16^3 = 4096 @e.mccormick
Yes, then you do that backwards for the root. So the cube root of 4096 is 16.
@Luis_Rivera But it is math! EVERYBODY wants to do math! Right?
so than would it be \[\sqrt[3]{16}\]
Not quite. You evaaluated the root, so it is gone!
so it would just be \[\sqrt{16} ?\]
@angelina22309 Here is another fact about exponents you may have seen by this point: \[\sqrt[3]{x}=x^{\frac{1}{3}}\] Now, this lets us solve that last problem a second way that might be easier for you. If you are happy with what you did, great! But if you want a second way, here it is: \[\frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{64^2}}=\frac{1}{(64^2)^{\frac{1}{3}}}\] Now, have you seen how exponets to an exponent work? So \[(x^n)^m\]
yea i get that part because the first part to this question was to write 64^-2/3 in radical notation.
No, the root is completley gone, bar and all. \(\sqrt[3]{4096}=16\) \[\therefore \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{4096}}=\frac{1}{16}\]
oh I see!! So the answer is 1/16
OK, that \((x^n)^m\) thing is pretty easy to show. Want to learn it real fast?
yes please
Good! Lets use 2 since we have it here in the problem... well, it is hiding in there. \[4096=2^{12}\] So I am going to show you something else that gets the same number. \(2^3\) means \(2\cdot 2\cdot 2\), right? Well, \((2^3)^4=(2^3)\cdot (2^3)\cdot (2^3)\cdot (2^3)\) But since we know what \(2^3\) means, we can put that in and get: \((2^3)^4=(2\cdot 2\cdot 2)\cdot (2\cdot 2\cdot 2)\cdot (2\cdot 2\cdot 2)\cdot (2\cdot 2\cdot 2)\) By rules of multiplicaiton we can remove the ( ), so: \((2^3)^4=2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\cdot 2\) Now that is 12, 2s multiplied, \(\therefore (2^3)^4=2^{12}\)
I get that part.
This is an application of a rule of exponents that says these three things are the same: \[(x^n)^m=x^{n\cdot m}=(x^m)^n\] AKA: an exponent to an exponent is the product of the exponents, and I can do products in different orders and get the same results. So now, if I did this in the problem, I could change it.
ok that makes more sense!
\[\frac{1}{(64^2)^{\frac{1}{3}}}=\frac{1}{(64^{\frac{1}{3}})^{2}}\] Now I see that the cube root of 64 is 4. That changes this to: \[\frac{1}{(64^{\frac{1}{3}})^{2}}=\frac{1}{(4)^{2}}=\frac{1}{16}\]
So that is a second way to do roots of powers. If you are careful with the order of oprations, this can let you pick what you do when. With 64 ad 4096, this is useful because 64 is a lot easier to know the cube root of than 4096 is!
Yea! It is lol. Hey can you check this one for me? I think I did it right... Find the maximum y-value on the graph of y = f(x) \[f(x) = -x^2 + 8x + 5\] \[\frac{ -b }{ 2a } = \frac{ -8 }{ 2(-1) } = 4\] \[f(4) = -4^2 + 8(4) + 5 = 16 + 32 + 5 = 53\] Maximum y-value is 53?
The 4 is right.... but lets tak another look at the y of 4.
You made one mistake. \(-x^2\ne (-x)^2\) \(-x^2= -(x^2)\)
So you dropped a sign. I think I have dropped a few million by now, so don't be surprised if you drop more yourself!
Wait where did I drop the sign?? @e.mccormick
You: \(f(4) = -4^2 + 8(4) + 5 = 16 + 32 + 5 = 53\) Me: \(f(4) = -(4^2) + 8(4) + 5 = -16 + 32 + 5 = ??\)
But x = -1 so since we are putting 4 as x, wouldnt it be -4^2
That means your answer would be 21
At that point it is 4, and yes, 21. And then to confiirm: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/a5kixezwea
so my answer is wrong?
You were correct in getting 4 and evaluating \(f(4)\). The mistake was in the meaning of \(-x^2\). PEMDAS Powers/Exponents Multiplication/Division Addition/Subtraction \(-x^2\) means \((-1)x^2\). That means you do the exponent first, then the multiplication by \(-1\).
oh ok!! Makes sense
Yah, it is maxed at 21, not 53.
Yah, at that moment you were "thinking x is negative four and square it" by doing the - first. Very, evry easy mistake to make. But because it is a variable, you have to be careful of the order of operations.
Can you help me find the vertex of a problem??
Sure. Need to look at a ref on that, refresh my parabolas, but should not be too hard.
Ah, \(y = a(x – h)^2 + k\) form. OK. I can work things to that easy enough.
For \[y = x^2 - 6 \] do the following: a.) Sketch a graph b.)identify the vertex c.) Compare the graph of y = f(x) to the graph y = x^2
I've already sketched the graph, however, not sure what the vertex is.
OH! As in what the vertex means?
I know the vertex are coordinates in the graph right?
A parabola can be broken down into parts. There is the curve, the focus, the vertex, and the directrix. Most people know what the curve is. A U shape! At the very, very lowest point of the u, that is the Vertex. Now, if the U were upside down, it would be the highest point. To be complete, the Focus and Directrix are NOT on the parabola. They are mathematical constructs that tell us about the parabola. If you have not heardof them yet, do not worry about them.
hold on, let me attach my graph
An animated parabola with the vertex as a dot: http://hotmath.com/hotmath_help/topics/vertex-of-a-parabola.html
Remember that high point we found? That was one way of finding the vertex.
So the low point on your graph is the Vertex.
vertex = (0, -6)
Yep! The term bertex gets reused in math. If you have an angle, it is the point they meet at. In a parabola, it is where the curve changes from down to up, up to down, etc.
Later you will do a section of math called the conics, as in slices of a cone. The parabola, circle, ellipse, and hyperbola will all be gone over in a lot more deatail. So learning the parabola really well here will help you later.
ok so not onto quadratic equations! Lol I always get stuck in the very end. I'll show you what ive done so far. \[y = x^2 - 2x - 4\] \[a = 1, b = 2, c = -4\] \[x = \frac{ -2 \pm \sqrt{2^2 - 4(1)(-4)} }{ 2(1) }\] \[x = \frac{ -2 \pm \sqrt{4 + 16} }{ 2 } = \frac{ -2 \pm \sqrt{20} }{ 2 }\]
\(a=1,b=2,c=−4\) Oops! Sign! \(a=1,b=-2,c=−4\)
ahhh!!!! hold on
Beacuse the \(b^2\) that only changes the outside b to positive. Nothing else.
okay so the outside 2 would just be 2 not -2
Yep. Then you get to work th root a bit.\[x = \frac{ 2 \pm \sqrt{4 + 16} }{ 2 } = \frac{ 2 \pm \sqrt{20} }{ 2 }=\frac{ 2 \pm \sqrt{2\cdot 2\cdot 5} }{ 2 }\]
\[x = \frac{ 2 \pm \sqrt[2]{5} }{ 2 }\]
Ummm.... where did the 2 go? It eventually leaves, but it left without its friends. They all stay or the all go (cancel.)
wouuld it look like \[x = \frac{ 2 \pm 2\sqrt{5} }{ 2 }\]
Yes, but now you have a 2 that can factor.
\[x = \frac{ 2 \pm 2\sqrt{5} }{ 2 }\Rightarrow x = \frac{ (2 )(1 \pm \sqrt{5}) }{ (2)(1) }\]
so will it be \[x = 1 + \sqrt{5}, x = 1 - \sqrt{5}\]
Yes!
That last part always gets me!
Yah, the root work. It gave you trouble earlier with the first one we did today.
So we know where the root of the problem is.... roots.
yes!!
I remember doing a problem like this one that ima show you before but I had a lot of trouble with it for some reason . ima close this question and open another .
So I suggest you take sme radical actions! http://www.purplemath.com/modules/radicals.htm Review that, make some notes to yourself, and dig out those roots from where they are hiding and into the light understanding!
thanks!
And there are serveral jokes there, especially if you know philosophy. Socrates saw true knowlege as the light of the Sun. A mathematical root is a radical.
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