In an experiment, a fair coin is flipped, then a fair die is rolled, then second fair coins is flipped, ans outcomes are recorded. (outcome of a single trial of this experiment looks like H5T or T2T, meaning head was flipped then a 5 was rolled then a tail was flipped, or tail was flipped then a 2 was rolled then another tail was flipped.) a)List sample space b)let A be the event that odd number is rolled. find the probability of event A. Justify your answer C) let B be the event exactly one T flipped and the number rolled is even. Find prob. event B. justify your answer.
There are 24 possible outcomes. [2*6*2]
So, there are 24 elements in the sample space.
Tree Diagram and Half of the Members of the Sample Space
T.T I hate Statistic... it is so difficult... Thank you!
@Kokoa We are not finished. We have only just begun. The helpers ran off but are returning. :)
Once you get all the outcomes listed, b and c are easy - you can get them from the tree diagram. You can also get them without it.
a)List sample space Half of it is on the attached file. @Kokoa How about you following the pattern and listing the second 12 elements of the sample space. Just follow the limbs of the tree diagram. Once you get started, the pattern emerges.
@agent0smith >>Once you get all the outcomes listed, b and c are easy - you can get them from the tree diagram. You can also get them without it. This is not logic, is it?
Eh? Not sure what you mean. You can get b and c w/o a tree diagram.
How did you calculate 1/2? The explanation of how to get 1/2 and the commentary that it is easy to do are not the same thing.
^ The chance of an odd number from the die is 50% (three odd numbers, six possible outcomes), and is independent of the coin outcomes. chance of getting one tail is 50% (two outcomes TH and HT, four possible TH, TT, HT HH) and the chance of an even number is also 50%, so multiply them together.
^and again, an even number and exactly one T are independent events.
"How did you calculate 1/2? The explanation of how to get 1/2 and the commentary that it is easy to do are not the same thing." I think you may have been confusing me with qweqwe123123123123111 ?
I looked at the tree diagram and saw 6 odd numbers on the first half and knew that there would be the same 6 on the second half of the tree. So that makes 12 of the 24 outcomes have odd numbers. Probability is the number of desired outcomes divided by the number of possible outcomes. So, that is 12/24 = 1/2 as the probability for part b. That is what I mean by an explanation. Or, maybe you already said that while I was drawing that tree. :)
>> @qweqwe123123123123111 Quite possible because I was reading the posts and not looking at the author. My apology to you @agent0smith
Let me look at part c again.
@qweqwe123123123123111 Come over here in this thread and post. We are finished with the 3rd child is a girl post. (Please)
For part C, T1H, T3H, T5H, H1T, H3T, H5T 6/24 = 1/4 --> the aforementioned 25%
@Kokoa You have to help on this. So, do you know how to finish the sample space?
For part c, the order of the events doesn't matter - it only matters that you get an even number (3/6) and exactly one T (2/4). You can get the same results from a tree diagram, but since the events are independent, it's not necessary (like it kinda is with dependent events)
Yes! Thank You!!! Thank you! All of you are amazing!
We enjoy working together (and debating) on these types of problems @Kokoa
A tree diagram can still help though, to confirm an answer.
Somebody over in the "third girl" thread said a tree diagram for this problem would be useful. :) I think it helped @Kokoa and I like the tree diagrams so it's all good.
- " Come over here in this thread and post" Okay...stand by... :-)
I said it :P but that's because this question ask for a sample space, and a tree diagram helps to list them all w/o forgetting some.
I agree. But, it is also easy to get mesmerized when drawing all those limbs and then reading off the sample space items.
Tree diagrams are almost a necessity when events are dependent, though, since in those cases, the order of the events does matter.
@Kokoa is playing Chuck-A-Luck now in a new post. It's a cool game. Read about it here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dice-play/Games/ChuckALuck.htm
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