Given that one root of the equation x^2 + 2px - q = o is twice the other, express q in terms of p.
you recall the quadratic formula?
We were told not to do that method as it is extremely long and time consuming
Can you show me the sum of roots and product of roots method of doing it?
can we use teh sum and product of roots?
i think so...
im do not recall hearing of those kinds of methods. i do not see how the quad formula is long and consuming tho .... \[\frac{-b-\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{a}=\frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\]
Alright, sure thing i will try to understand the steps.
in any case, the roots will still be a result of the quad formula .... not too sure how you would be able to define them otherwise
Can you show me the steps please?
\[\frac{-b-\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{a}=\frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\] \[-2b-2\sqrt{b^2-4ac}=-b+\sqrt{b^2-4ac}\] \[-2(2p)-2\sqrt{(2p)^2+4q}=-(2p)+\sqrt{(2p)^2+4q}\] \[-2p=3\sqrt{(2p)^2+4q}\] \[-\frac23p=\sqrt{4p^2+4q}\] \[-\frac23p=2\sqrt{p^2+q}\] \[-\frac13p=\sqrt{p^2+q}\] \[\frac19p^2=p^2+q\] \[-\frac89p^2=q\] maybe
I see so this is how i do it. Thank you :D *Thumbs up*
Thanks dude.
this is how i would approach it, yes.
Can i ask you to help me solve a similar question?
dunno, i only have so many good ideas in a day ...
in 3 mins time
Can i swop the denominator ?
Will it affect the end result?
what do you mean be "swap the denominator"?
the a and 2a swop the position
because gen formula is -b positive/negative square root (b square -4ac) over 2a
The denominator represent the roots and a is the unknown variable right?
the quadratic formula has 2 parts to it, a vertex axis called a discriminant, and a +- part that measures an equal distance to both sides of that axis to define the zeros: r1 <= vertex <= r2 \[\frac{-b}{2a}-\frac{\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}~\le~\frac{-b}{2a}~\le~\frac{-b}{2a}+\frac{\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\]
the phrase "2 times as large" suggests to me that the left side has to double to equal the right side
what if it's like the root differ by 2
or you need to see the whole question
the left and right sides of the middle are the roots; if we keep it clean and just call them r1 and r2 |r1 - r2| = 2 expresses the difference between them as "2"
I see wow this logic is quite thought provoking..
okay moving on to the next question now
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