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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to give an equation for an absolute value function that has a minimum. How do I determine that it has a minimum?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know what the graph of an absolute value function looks like?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know that it is the shape of a V but i dont know how to determine what the minimum or maximum is. or even how to put it into an equation for that fact.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is the value at the lowest point on the graph?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The "value" refers to the y value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the position of the graph in y represents the "output" of the function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the lowest position on the graph corresponds to the minimum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. but how do i make an equation? I have to write an equation for an absolute value function. I dont know how to do that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know how to write the most basic absolute value function possible?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that corresponds to the graph that I drew and would be a correct answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y=\left| x \right|\]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So long as the equation is not in the form y = -|x|, it will have a mininum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the simplest case works fine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. so then for an equation with a maximum it could be anything that is \[y=+\left| x \right|\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If it is positive it wont have a maximum.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

look at the graph I drew before and observe how it increases forever in both directions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. then how do I write one with a maximum?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

When you reflect the graph across the x axis, you can see how what was a minimum before is not a maximum instead

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is now**

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So y = - |x| has a maximum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhhh. ok. Now i get it. Thank you so much for your help :) I may need it again in a little bit. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

np. If you found it helpful can you award a medal please? I would appreciate it. Trying to increase my rank. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha :) Sure can do :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yupp :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. so what is the point called where the maximum or minimum value occurs?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they're called absolute maximums or absolute minimums

OpenStudy (anonymous):

some functions need to be examined more carefully to make sure you have found the absolute max and not just a local max

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. so now i have one more more question. How do we know that absolute value functions are not one-to-one? I have no idea what this means

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you understand the definition of a function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

apparently not. I hate math. haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, well a function describes a relationship between the set of numbers that can be used as input for the function, and the set of numbers that come back out as output

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is why the value of y is considered to be the "value" of the function at that point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Because if you put in x, you get back that y.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. so what does it mean when it is one-to-one? I dont understand that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A function is a relationship that is slightly more special, in that each output can correspond ONLY to a single input

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

like a circle can't be a function because each position in x is related to 2 positions in y.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know you think I'm not getting to your question, but I am

OpenStudy (anonymous):

beause you have to understand this to know what one-to-one refers to

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So in order to check if something is a function, you can look for what is called the vertical line test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh its fine. I just dont understand any of this math. and we dont have a text book for my class. so I really dont know what or how I am supposed to be doing this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since the vertical line passes through 2 points in the same x position, it can't be a function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In order for a function to be ONE-TO-ONE, you look for something called a horizontal line test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. i understand the horizontal line test. I just dont know why an absolute function can't be one-to-one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

because one to one refers to a relationship such that each y value is paired with ONLY ONE x value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

an absolute value function is such that each y is paired with 2 x's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it fails the horizontal line test on that basis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. got it. :)

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