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OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

i^x=x

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What are you trying to do?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Solve for x

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

is there an other way than hitting it with a log

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@RadEn

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@wio

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So you can't use natural log?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

No

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

A log doesn't seem helpful... x log(i) = log x isn't really any more solved than before.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=i%5Ex%3Dx+solve+for+x i have no idea other than that.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So how do I solve that (w/o log)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is \(i\) as in \(\sqrt{-1}\) right?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

With a natural log you can make it slightly less atrocious, but without using it I have no idea. Even with using it I have not many ideas.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

x can;t be zero either, as I see, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(i^0 \neq 0\) so no

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Ok

zepdrix (zepdrix):

You could clean it up a little bit using Euler's Identity,\[\Large e^{\frac{\pi}{2}i}\quad=\quad i\]So we can write this as:\[\Large e^{\frac{\pi}{2}ix}\quad=\quad x\]Which relates somehow to that weird product log function.. I don't really know much about it myself though D:

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@zepdrix, i don't understand that, sorry, can you explain?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I have no idea how to solve this by hand, so i'm wondering what class it's from...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

e is 2.7 , right?...but still.. ??????

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large e^{ix}\quad=\quad \cos(x)+i \sin(x)\]\[\Large e^{i\frac{\pi}{2}}\quad=\quad \cos(\pi/2)+i \sin(\pi/2)\]\[\Large e^{i\frac{\pi}{2}}\quad=\quad 0+i (1)\]That's what I meant by Euler D:

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@agent0smith, I posted in a wrong section maybe, but, isn't this from algebra 1 just that with i?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is way beyond algebra 1 stuff

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

why that? how do you get that I am completely lost!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

What level of math is this for solomon? XD

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I don't really know, think trig or alg 1 or alg2, not sure

zepdrix (zepdrix):

lol whut? :D Did you just pull this problem out of your butt?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

LOL algebra 1 doesn't involve ANYTHING like this. Neither does algebra 2, or early calculus. I'd guess maybe some complex number theory classes might.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

No. I was looking at tough SAT problems online....

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

My first guess was no solution, but I am not sure.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yeah SAT problems are possible to solve by hand without some weird product log function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Tough SAT problems are doable by bright high schoolers. Pretty much the only high school doing this one is one of those guys who proves Fermat's last theorem when he's 20

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

SAT also doesn't require knowledge of imaginary numbers.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

OK than it was just tough math problems I was looking both sat and reg/ non-sat and wrote them down on my paper , don't know which is which...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There is a solution. Wolfram Alpha gives it to you. It does not offer a step by step solution, though, so I have no idea where it got it.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I have some others maybe you can solve them for me? If you can't solve this.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I wouldn't even know how to solve this if it was 2^x = x but at least you can graph it... it's even weirder with an i in it's place.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@SACAPUNTAS, I agree, but as I already said, I don't understand that solution, so I asked to explain.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@agent0smith, it is weird, but.... can you solve it?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I'm sure there's someone on th the site who can explain it... maybe.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@wio maybe?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I a;ready mentioned him b/f

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So none of you guys can help?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't! I was just hanging around in hopes that someone could explain it. :D

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I see many PROs and no help yet.....

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

I'd wonder if anyone on the site can help. You're asking a question which is above most people's level of math knowledge. I've never used the product log function which seems required.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Sorry, but I am maybe smarter than asking easier questions,

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Whatever.... HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

RECALLING THE PROBLEM AGAIN i^x=x

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Maybe |dw:1381975070567:dw|

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