flvs help not understanding 6.09 Option 2 - Rectangular Box
You will need the following materials to find the volume of a rectangular box: A rectangular box such as a cereal or shoe box Ruler or tape measure Graphing technology (e.g., graphing calculator or GeoGebra) Procedure: Measure and record the length, width and height of the rectangular box you have chosen in inches. Round to the nearest whole number. Apply the formula of a rectangular box (V = lwh) to find the volume of the object. Now suppose you knew the volume of this object and the relation of the length to the width and height, but did not know the length. Rewriting the equation with one variable would result in a polynomial equation that you could solve to find the length. Rewrite the formula using the variable x for the length. Substitute the value of the volume found in step 2 for V and express the width and height of the object in terms of x plus or minus a constant. For example, if the height measurement is 4 inches longer than the length, then the expression for the height will be (x + 4). Simplify the equation and write it in standard form. Find the solutions to this equation algebraically using the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra, the Rational Root Theorem, Descartes' Rule of Signs, and the Factor Theorem. (Hint: If the numbers are large, graph the function first using GeoGebra to help you find one of the zeros. Use that zero to find the depressed equation which can be solved by factoring or the quadratic formula.) Substitute 0 for the function notation and, using graphing technology, graph the function. Answer the following questions What does the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra indicate with respect to this equation? What are the possible rational solutions of your equation? How many possible positive, negative and complex solutions are there in your equation? Graph the function. What type of function has been graphed (linear, quadratic, cubic, or quartic)? Provide your reasoning and describe the end behavior of the graph. How do the solutions of the equation compare to the length of the rectangular object, and the x-intercept of the graph? Provide both the solutions and measurement. Send to your instructor a lab report with the following information: Title(1 point) Materials Used (1 point) Procedure(1 point) Data (20 points) Include: A description of the rectangular box chosen (1 point) The length, width, height and volume of the object (3 points) The equation for the volume of the object written in terms of x (2 point) The graph of the function (2 point) The solutions of the equation including the algebraic work used to find the solutions (6 points) Answers to the five questions (6 points) Conclusion(2 points) What did you think of the project? What did you learn? Do you have any questions or concerns?
What part are you not understanding? The lab project as described is basically: Find a box. Measure the box. Do some math on the measurements. Record everything. Which part are you stuck at?
i got my measurements l=8 w=5 h=3 i just need help getting it started
"Apply the formula of a rectangular box (V = lwh) to find the volume of the object. " V=lwh means V = l times w times h, so that is what you do next.
i got 120
OK. So write about it. Answer all the stuff at the bottom with that.
Well, that is part of what is at the very bottom.
but first i need this to do that well some of them Rewrite the formula using the variable x for the length. Substitute the value of the volume found in step 2 for V and express the width and height of the object in terms of x plus or minus a constant. For example, if the height measurement is 4 inches longer than the length, then the expression for the height will be (x + 4).
Yep.... All sorts of fun. so your l was l=8, which is longer than w=5 and h=3. So you need to change it so x\(\pm\)?=8 to find those things.
Theirs example is something 4 inches longer than the length would be (x+4). In your case, the length is the longer one... that means the others would both be shorter.
so like 120=x(x+5)(x+3)
Well, let me work with what they did to find those. Lets say in the example, h = 7 and it is 4 longer than l so l = 3, but how would I use those to find (x+4)? Well, take x + h - l x + 7 - 3 x + 4 In your case, l=8 w=5 h=3 So what are x + h - l and x + w - l
so x+3-8 x+5-8
And simplify.
x-5 x-3
So those are the two terms you nees to use in your equation.
so 120= x(x-5)(x-3) right???
Yes.
Now, do you know how to get that into standard form?
kind of
Multiply it all out.
x^3-8x^2+15x ?
Yep, \(x^3-8x^2+15x\) Now you need to look at a whole bunch of questions... What does the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra indicate with respect to this equation? What are the possible rational solutions of your equation? How many possible positive, negative and complex solutions are there in your equation? Graph the function. What type of function has been graphed (linear, quadratic, cubic, or quartic)? Provide your reasoning and describe the end behavior of the graph. How do the solutions of the equation compare to the length of the rectangular object, and the x-intercept of the graph?
for the first one is because it has 3 roots 0,3,5
o and for 2
Well, you multiplied it out... because it had 3 roots, it ended up as a 3dr degree equation. So it works both ways. If it is 3rd degree it has 3 roots. because you multiplied 3 roots you got 3rd degree.
and for the second one it would be the roots i would get 0, 3,5
Yah, since you multiplied it, kind of hard not to get the same result.
Now for the all possible question, you need to use the Rational Root Theorem
1 positive and 2 negative idk
i dont know how to do this one well
Hmmm... to be honest, this is one place where the separation fromt he directions is not great.... #2 could be answere done of two ways, with the answers or with the Rational Root Theorem list of possibilities by factoring... For #3, I mean tot say Descartes' Rule of Signs... that is where you look for changes in the sign. You use that method to answer #3?
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o ok
Because of the + out front, which is normally not written, I got 2. And since it is 2 or less by 2, I get 2 or 0. See how I did that?
yes
On the lower part of the page it talks about how to find the possible number of negatives. Do you understand how they are changing signs with (-x) ?
u make all the x negative
-x^3+8x^2-15x ?
It has to do with putting (-x) into the function and seeing what happens because of the powers. For odd powers, like \(x^5\), \(x^3\), \(x\) aka: \(x^1\) the sign changes happen. \((-2)^3\) means (-2)(-2)(-2) or -8. \((-x)^3\) means (-x)(-x)(-x) or -x^3. For even powers, the power erases the - part. \((-2)^2=(-2)(-2)=4\) and \((-x)^2=(-x)(-x)=x^2\) So odd powers flip sign, but even powers do not. And I say flip sign because a - become + and a + becomes -.
so was i right all the signs changed
The even power does not change sign.
so the 8 would stay negative
Yes. \(x^3-8x^2+15x\implies \) \((-x)^3-8(-x)^2+15(-x)\implies \) \(-x^3-8x^2-15x\)
so it would be 2 or 0 again because we just changed two
No. You don't count how many you changed. You evaluate the new equation dor how many changes it has in it. There are three things and it goes from negative to negative to negative. How many times does it change in there?
3?
Nope. If I say negative positive negative, my word changed twice. Once from negative to positive and once from positive to negative. If I say positive positive positive, they are all positive and there are no changes. So, if I say negative negative negative, it is how many changes?
no changes there all the same
Exactly. =) so 0. Or because we are evaluating negative roots, 0 possible negative roots.
how would i do Graph the function. What type of function has been graphed (linear, quadratic, cubic, or quartic)?
Well, first, all the linear, quadratic, cubic, or quartic things depend on the highest power. So what is the highest power in yours and what word does it match up with?
like the highest number?
The highest power. \(\Large x^n\) whichever n is biggest.
so x^3
Yes, is that linear, quadratic, cubic, or quartic?
cubic
Yep. So there is the answer to that part. As for graphing it, that depends on how you have been taught to graph things.
not really taught how to just i do it idk
Well, there are several possible ways to graph. You can find lots of points. You can do the zeros and then see what is to each side, high or low, and later you learn to use calculus to find the high and low points. But for most algebra classes, it is usually the zeros and test points between to see if things go high or low.
So your zeros were 0, 3, and 5. Start by putting points on the x axis for those. Then take one thing lower than 0 and see if it goes higher or lower. -1 is fine. Then something between 0 and 3. Then between 3 and 5. Then above 5.
sorry im a visual learners im kind of getting it
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